Complete Bboard Post Sequence in which the :-) Was Invented

A dump of the CMU CS general bboard contents that includes the post in which Scott Fahlman invented the smiley :-) is below.  This was retrieved from the spice vax oct-82 backup tape by Jeff Baird on September 10, 2002.


You can read just the "joke" thread on the bboard that led to the invention of the smiley.  A short description of the computing archaeology work behind this can be found in a summary note with the original post and thanks to those who helped retrieve it.  Also, see Scott's page about the smiley.

For more bboard history, see the full contents of the bboard from the 1982 year-end g vax (cmu-780g) backup tape, which spanned the dates 25-Nov-82 to 31-Dec-82, including a thread about changing the Arpanet protocol over from NCP to TCP/IP.


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16-Sep-82 09:32    Joe Mohan at CMU-10A         My thesis proposal...
... is scheduled for 10:30 tomorrow, Friday, Sep 17, in WeH 4605.
The title is "The Effect of Program Characteristics on Parallel
Performance".  I have left drafts of the proposal in the lounge.

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16-Sep-82 11:51    James Wright at CMU-780D     Related question
Of equal interest is how the birds cheeping will
sound after they have inhaled the Helium.
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16-Sep-82 12:09    Neil Swartz at CMU-750R      Pigeon type question
This question does not involve pigeons, but is similar:
There is a lit candle in an elevator mounted on a bracket attached to 
the middle of one wall (say, 2" from the wall).  A drop of mercury
is on the floor.  The cable snaps and the elevator falls.
What happens to the candle and the mercury?
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16-Sep-82 13:24    Roger Dannenberg at CMU-10A  "Seven Visions",
a concert-length composition of mine will be performed next Thurs. and Fri.
The work is dedicated to Soviet computer scientist and dissident Anatoly
Shcharansky.  Details are on Music BBoard.

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16-Sep-82 14:54    Ed Frank at CMU-VLSI         potential graphics/ai job
Prof. Eckartsberg of the Duquesne Univ, Psychology Dept. called me
to ask if someone would be interested  in  working with him on the following:

"To create a multi-dimensional dynamic consciousness-model capable of tracking
and displaying a person's stream of consciousness in real time.
Based on ongoing work to integrate psychological theories and maps of 
personality and consiousness"

>From my brief conversation with him, it sounds as if the "display" part
would involved using 2/3-D color graphics. Anyway, if you
interested call him at 434-6511 or 687-5044. Also see a one page blurb
from him that I posted on the physical bboard.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about this except that someone gave him my
name as a person to ask about graphics. Call him, not me.

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16-Sep-82 16:15    Anders Ardo at CMU-10A       Help with lodging during visi
I will visit CMU a couple of days from Oct 8 and forward.
Are there anyone, with a spare bed, kind enough to give
me a place to stay during my visit?
I would appriciate your help very much.
Please reply to Anders.Ardo@cmua
             Thanks
                       Anders

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16-Sep-82 16:51    Mike Blackwell               Mail to Mellon Institute
From: Mike Blackwell <Blackwell at CMU-20C>

  How does one go about sending mail to Mellon Institute CEC (it's mi-cec
on Usenet). Is it possible to transfer files over Usenet to any CMU
machine?

  Any pointers will be much appreciated.
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16-Sep-82 16:54    PERVIN at CMU-20C            house-mate needed
We need one or two more people for a house on 1025 Murray Hill Ave., in
Squirrel Hill.  The house is huge, and includes 4 bedrooms, living rm.,
dining rm., kitchen, basement, and 4 bathrooms.  Everything is furnished
except your room.  Rent is $175/mo., and well worth it.  Better yet,
a couple could share the largest bedroom for $280.  But we must find
someone soon.  Call one of us (Ed, Helen, or Craig) at 362-6422, or
me (Ed Pervin) at X2741, or send me mail at Pervin@CmuC.
  (p.s. the house has a microwave oven, too.)
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16-Sep-82 16:57    Aaron Wohl at CMU-10A        Farewell
I would like to say goodbye to the CMU CS community after a stay with many
enjoyable moments.  I will be going to work nearby (at the CMU Computation
Center) and so will still be seen wandering around CS occasionally.
 
If you have been sending CMUC problem reports to me rather than gripe now
would be a wonderful time to repent.
        Aaron

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16-Sep-82 17:15    Linda Bucciarelli at CMU-10A missing keys
{Will the person who walked off with my keys please return them 
to me in 4630 wean.

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16-Sep-82 17:21    Howard Gayle at CMU-780G     WARNING!
Because of a recent physics experiment, the leftmost elevator has been
contaminated with mercury.  There is also some slight fire damage.
Decontamination should be complete by 08:00 Friday.
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16-Sep-82 17:34    Cynthia Elm at CMU-10A       Sale
    
An acquaintance of mine has a RCA XL-100, 17" color t.v. and
stand he'd like to sell for $250 complete.  He would also like
to sell his plants.  If you're interested, please call Bijan
(pronounced "Beeshan") at 361-7116.

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16-Sep-82 18:01    Mark Stehlik at CMU-10A      Pretty Good Race T shirts
I have been volunteered to sell the official 'Pretty Good Race' t shirts
once again this year.  For those of you who don't know, the Pretty Good
Race is a 3 mile fun run (as if a 3 mile run can be fun) on one of the
Schenley Park trails.  It is open to anyone in the department.
 
As to the Tshirts, they are available on a first-come, first-served
basis from me in my office (8122).  You can come by and pick yours up
anytime (virtually) during the day.  However, you must pay me upon
receipt ($2.00 for runners, $3.00 for non-runners).  
 
The shirts are powder blue with dark blue lettering, and look very nice.
Supplies are limited (100 shirts:  20 small, 35 medium, 35 large, 10 Xlarge),
so make your purchase soon if you want to be sure and get the right size.

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16-Sep-82 19:18    Paul Birkel at CMU-10A       Prin. of Database Systems
        Is anyone interested in selling their copy of:
 
                Principles of Database Systems
                        Jeffrey D. Ullman    (?)
 
        If so please send mail to PB80 @ CMU-10A. Thanks.
 

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16-Sep-82 19:18    Carolyn Councill at CMU-10A  One man's trash
The Computation Center has no more use for 6 1/2 boxes of yellow
paper tape (in rolls) - perfect for a teletype with a paper tape
punch.  If you would like some (or all) of these, please send mail to
me or stop by ScH 3410.

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16-Sep-82 21:34    Rudy Nedved at CMU-10A       Re: WARNING!!
The previous bboard message about mercury is related to the comment
by Neil Swartz about Physics experiments. It is not an actual
problem.
 
Last year parts of Doherty Hall were closed off because of spilled
mercury. My high school closed down a lab because of a dropped bottle
of mercury.
 
My apology for spoiling the joke but people were upset and yelling
fire in a crowded theatre is bad news....so are jokes on day old
comments.

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16-Sep-82 23:52    Carolyn Councill at CMU-10A  Paper tape gone
More Computation Center trash specials in the future, though...

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17-Sep-82 00:46    William Birmingham           Tutorial on Databases
From: William Birmingham at CMU-10A
Does anyone have a copy of the IEEE tutorial on Databases, or
know where I can borrow a copy ? Thanks !!

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17-Sep-82 06:34    James Saxe at CMU-10A        Sq. Dances Tonight & Saturday
Larry Edelman will call tonight at the Squirrel Hill Community Services Center
(formerly Wightman School).  Dolores Heagy will call tomorrow at the "Sewickley
Celebrates the Arts" Festival.  Details are in SQUARE.TXT[c410js30] on CMUA.

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17-Sep-82 09:07    Ros Joobbani at CMU-10A      $99.95 personal computer
In response to the question about the Timex $99.95 personal computer
if it is not late. There is an advertisement in the July issue of 
DISCOVER on pages 7, 8, and 9. I post page 9 which has the information
on physical bboard.

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17-Sep-82 09:25    Sharon Burks at CMU-10A      Foreign Student Check-in!!
Just a reminder that if you are a new foreign student you must check
in with the Foreign Student Advisor, Millie Russell, in Skibo 56.  This
should have been done as soon as you arrived -- for insurance, etc. --
so if you haven't done it you are already late!!

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17-Sep-82 10:35    Neil Swartz at CMU-750R      Answer to elevator question
The answer is that the candle goes out due to lack of oxygen. (There are no
longer any convection currents to keep feeding it)  The mercury forms into
an ellipsoid due to surface tension.  In balling up it exerts a force on the
floor which sends it towards the ceiling.  It will bounce back and forth
between ceiling and floor until the elevator hits the ground.  All of this
neglects the friction on the guide rails, vibrations, etc.

Any resemblance of this problem to any real situation is
purely coincidence, or in the mind of an operations staff person.
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17-Sep-82 10:58    Neil Swartz at CMU-750R      Elevator posts
Apparently there has been some confusion about elevators and such.  After
talking to Rudy, I have discovered that there is no mercury spill in any of
the Wean hall elevators.  Many people seem to have taken the notice about
the physics department seriously.

Maybe we should adopt a convention of putting a star (*) in the subject
field of any notice which is to be taken as a joke.

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17-Sep-82 11:37    Sesh Murthy at CMU-10A       Hitchhikers guide ... timings
The timings of Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy are 
Starting Sat 23
Saturdays 7:30 to 8:00 p.m. 
(repeat day) Sunday 11:00 p.m. to 11:30 p.m.
there are seven episodes and the show is WQED-tv channel 13.
WQED is in fundraising mode right now and you may want to contribute.
                                                        Sesh.

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17-Sep-82 11:51    David Cunnius at CMU-IUS     Today is Citizenship Day
	Are you registered to vote? The deadline for registration is in Oct.
(I'm not sure of the exact date.)
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17-Sep-82 11:52    Lydia Defilippo at CMU-10A   Logic Lunch
The first Logic Lunch of the Season will take place at 12:45 p.m. on
Friday, 24 September, in the cafeteria of the Carnegie Library.  The
schedule and format of this year's Logic Seminar will be up for
discussion.  All logically-inclined individuals are invited to attend.
For more information see either David McCarty X3062 or Peter Andrews
X2554.

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17-Sep-82 13:04    Scott Fahlman at CMU-10A     Elevators (*)
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the elevator...
        
Unfortunately, the center elevator now contains what seems to be the
remains of 40,000 two-pound pigeons in an advanced state of
decomposition and the right elevator contains a bear of indeterminate
color.  The left elevator appears to be safe, but when you stand in it
for too long, your voice gets squeaky and you start running into the
walls, causing the elevator to rise.
        
Despite the * in the header of this message, this is not a joke and
should be taken quite literallly.  Do not panic -- taking the stairs is
good for you.

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17-Sep-82 13:08    Robert Frederking at CMU-10A Bantu, anyone?
        If anyone out there happens to know a Bantu language, please
let me know.  There is an allegedly African song that I'd like you to
listen to.  I've already tried Mssrs. Thorpe and Ebeling.  Thanks.
 

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17-Sep-82 13:43    Fil Alleva at CMU-IUS        Time setting on CLNZ terminals
If you want your UNIX login profile to set the time automatically on clnz
terminals try putting [IUS]/usr/faa/bin/clnztime into your profile after you
determine that you have a clnz terminal. 	- Share and Enjoy.
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17-Sep-82 14:43    Thomas Rodeheffer at CMU-10A Candles in Zero-G
I seem to recall hearing about an experiment with burning candles in
zero-G (skylab?) in which the result was that the candle did NOT go
out, even though, as has been noted, you don't get convection
currents without gravity.  According to what I recall, a candle
burning in zero-G doesn't have a real flame, just a globular glowing
area around the wick.  Supposedly the explanation was that oxygen
diffuses towards the wick (and carbon dioxide and water vapor diffuse
away) fast enough to keep combustion going.  Does anybody remember
anything more about this?

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17-Sep-82 14:47    Paul Hilfinger at CMU-10A    Missing books
If you still have my copy of John Barnes' book on Ada, please
mail it to me at the address given in my plan file.  Thanks.

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17-Sep-82 14:52    Bob Chansler at CMU-10A      Corporate Animals
Far be it from me to predict the future of academic computer science,
but there can be no doubt that the business aspects of the field will
affect the lives of all who read this.  So you've passed the PS qual:
can you recognize the opportunities for arbitrage in surplus paper
tape?  Where in your thesis proposal did you discuss the impact of your
proof that P=NP will have on June pork belly futures?  I wish to
commend to your attention "The Official MBA Handbook" by Fisk and
Barron.  In this one book is everything you'll need to know about
business that is not on the AI syllabus.  Read it before you prove
another theorem or fix another bug.  You'll be glad you did.

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17-Sep-82 14:59    Joseph Ginder at CMU-10A     (*%)
 
I believe that the joke character should be % rather than *.

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17-Sep-82 15:15    Anthony Stentz at CMU-780G   (*%)
How about using * for good jokes and % for bad jokes?
We could even use *% for jokes that are so bad,
they're funny.

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17-Sep-82 15:48    James Muller at CMU-750Y     clnz time
And if you want to ascertain what type of terminal you are on, you can
use [GANDALF









If you want to determine whether your terminal is a clnz, you can do so
by using [Y]/usr/intro/bin/isaclnz:
/usr/intro/bin/isaclnz
if ($status) then
setenv TERM clnz
/usr/intro/bin/ztime
#or whatever
endif
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17-Sep-82 16:45    Paul Rosenbloom at CMU-10A   Missing spiral notebook?
If you are missing a spiral notebook with notes on a class in Human
Factors Engineering, it is in the Alto cubicle next to the Edpac (with
the no smoking sign on it).

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17-Sep-82 17:21    Sharon Burks at CMU-10A      More on Foreign Students.....
it seems that Ms. Russell has moved to Warner Hall rather than Skibo.
An additional note - she should tell you that all foreign students
are required to purchase health insur5ance, and the deadline for doing
so is September 24.  If you haven't done so, please see her.

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17-Sep-82 17:40    David McCarty at CMU-10A     Logically speaking...
If you're new around here and are at all interested in logic in
any of its many-splendored aspects. In other words, if you're the
kind of person who can only find true happiness doing eta-reductions
oryou want to find out if iterated forcing will really put hair on
the palms of your hands, then you should know that there will
be a regular logic seminar running throughout the year and various
informal logic events occurring from time to time. You may
send me mail if you would like to know more, or be put on our
mailing list.
 

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17-Sep-82 17:40    Keith Wright at CMU-10A      *%&#$ Jokes!
No, no, no!  Surely everyone will agree that "&" is the funniest
character on the keyboard.  It looks funny (like a jolly fat man
in convulsions of laughter).  It sounds funny (say it loud and
fast three times).  I just know if I could get my nose into the
vacuum of the CRT it would even smell funny!

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17-Sep-82 17:42    Leonard Hamey at CMU-10A     {#} (previously *)
A detailed (i.e. > 1 minute) study of the aesthetic and pictographic
effects of the characters available in the ASCII set has led to
the following suggestion:
 
I think that the joke character should be the sequence {#}
because it looks like two lips with teeth showing between them.
This is the expected result if someone actually laughs their head off.
An obvious abbreviation of this sequence would be the hash character
itself (which can also be read as the sharp character and suggests
a quality which may be lacking in those too obtuse to appreciate
the joke.)

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17-Sep-82 17:45    Rudy Nedved at CMU-10A       Major work of literature
If anyone knows of a computer readbale version of some major work of
literatue like Moby Disk or the Bible, please send me a pointer to
it. A friend of mine needs it for demo puposes. Thanks.

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17-Sep-82 18:52    Jim Crowley at CMU-10A       BB Jokes
BB jokes are fine and should not require a marker.
But jokes should not be malicious, obscene, or such that they
appear to resemble real warnings to all but a few.
Last nights elevator hoax was a borderline case of this last 
type.

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18-Sep-82 02:33    Ralph Emmerich at CMU-10A    Sale on Stereo Equipment
        Mark Levinson preamp, model ML-1  $1300.00.
        Klipschorn speakers, $1600.00.
        Van Alstine power amp, 200 watts/channel  $650.00.
        Luxman tuner, model T-110  $400.00.
All equipment is three years old or less, and all prices are 
negotiable.  Call Ralph Emmerich at 682-6901 or 682-8526.

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18-Sep-82 03:34    Jeff Shrager at CMU-10A      Newspaper preservation
I have a very rare newspaper that I would like to preserve.  Does
anyone know how (or where) to laminate such a thing  Where can I
get it microfilmed   

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18-Sep-82 14:38    Rudy Nedved at CMU-10A       Major work of literature
Thanks to all the people that responded. Apparently several places
have computer readable material but SU-AI seems to have the easiest
to access material (easily accessed via anonymous FTP).

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18-Sep-82 15:04    Monica Lam at CMU-10A        telenet info
Thanks to all those who provided the info and pointers.  I have sent
a summary of the information to Bovik since I have received several
pieces of mail expressing interest in the subject.

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18-Sep-82 15:18    Dave Touretzky at CMU-10A    a note to new TOPS-10 users
If you are new to CMU-10A, here's a suggestion for keeping your directory
clean.  Make a file called CLEAN.MIC that contains the following line:
 
        .DELETE *.FIN,*.BAK,*.TMP,FTP.LOG
 
Now, whenever you type /CLEAN to the monitor, it will execute the command
in CLEAN.MIC and erase all your garbage files.  A good time to do this is
just before you log off, as it will help get your directory under quota.
For more information on MIC, type HELP MIC.
 
PS:  This message really belongs on the LOCAL bboard rather than on GENERAL,
but I was afraid that new users wouldn't have gotten around to adding 
/READ:LOCAL to the BBOARD line in their SWITCH.INI files.

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18-Sep-82 15:19    Gregg Lebovitz at CMU-EE1    carpeting for sale
large piece of W to W carpeting ~ ( 17' by 21'), brown-orange (burnt orange?)
in color and in pretty good condition.  Price: free to a good home.
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18-Sep-82 15:55    Michael Mauldin at CMU-780G  Free Concert
That's right, FREE, gratis, without price. Sunday Afternoon in Point State
Park T.G. Sheppard will be giving a free concert (sponsered by WDSY radio)
after the Steeler game. Best bet is to show up around five. 

I will be going, and can give rides to three people. If you are interested,
CALL me at 421-2648 (I may not read mail by tomorrow afternoon).

Sorry about the short notice, but that's how it goes. I just heard today.

N.B. T.G. Sheppard is an accomplished C&W singer with several hit songs.
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18-Sep-82 16:23    Catherine Cole at CMU-10A    Free Bus Rides
I have a pass for unlimited bus rides for two adults and two children
this weekend. It lasts until 4:00 A.M. Monday. I'm putting it on
the physical BBoard by the lounge door. Tour Pgh. for Free!

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18-Sep-82 16:53    Robert Thibadeau at CMU-10A  Carpet for Sale
10X10 Approximately -- Shag yellow and white -- I would probably
never buy it myself, but I lived in an entire house of it in
Charlottesville for one year and found a room of it in my present
house.  I'm letting it go for 10 big ones.  Anyone using "Banner"
and sending ten big "1"s to me will be anticipated.

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18-Sep-82 17:30    Theresa M Donahoe at CMU-EE1 CRT terminals
I am about to purchase a CRT terminal and 1200 baud modem.
I would like to buy a "smart" terminal (i.e. one with some
basic editing functions, but no programming), preferrably
with a detachable keyboard, adjustable viewing angle, and
both an RS232 port and an auxiliary port (for future printer).
I hope to spend $1000-$1500.  The purpose of this notice is
to solicit "advice" based on experience others have had with
CRT terminals so that I can avoid buying something that's
unreliable or otherwise undesirable.  Any information you'd
like to share with me would be greatly appreciated.  Send
me mail (tmd43) on the eevax or (td97) at TopsC.  Thanks!
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18-Sep-82 17:48    James Muller at CMU-750Y     mispost
My apologies for the rather random, misplaced, misformatted page which
I somehow allowed to arrive on the general bb yesterday.

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18-Sep-82 20:40    Guy Steele at CMU-10A        ! Joke markers again
I hope everyone realized that my previous remark about non-use
of joke markers was a joke, and was flagged as such by the
absence of a marker.  This message is not a joke, as indicated
by the exclamation point.

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18-Sep-82 21:58    Feng-Hsiung Hsu at CMU-10A   Trek Game Document
I accidentally printed out a copy of the Trek game document in a
attempt to read the document on the ALTO. When I went to the Dover
room, I found one Trek Document on the Dover, another coming out,
and more copies on the Guest rack. Maybe some other people have
printed them without knowing it. If you are interested in the game,
perhaps you should go to the Dover room first and find out if there
is any Trek Document left.

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18-Sep-82 22:06    Lee Brownston at CMU-10A     Books for Sale
My book collection has grown to unmanageable size, so I am forced to
sell hundreds of books.  The list, which will be kept up to date, can
be found in the file books.txt[a780lb90] on CMU-10A.  At the moment,
the vast majority of the books in the list are in Cognitive Psychology,
with an especially good selection of books from Erlbaum.  Sorry, my
sale books do NOT include anything from Computer Science, Artificial
Intelligence, or Mathematics.  Examine the file for further details.

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18-Sep-82 23:49    Leonard N  Zubkoff           Kerosene Heaters
From: Leonard N  Zubkoff <Zubkoff at Cmu-20c>
Jan and I are considering purchasing a Kerosene heater to ease heating bills
this winter, but we are concerned about any problems of Kerosene fumes.  Would
anyone having any information on the current breed of such heaters please get
in touch with us.  Replies to Zubkoff @ CMUC.  Thanks.
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19-Sep-82 11:44    Scott E  Fahlman             :-)
From: Scott E  Fahlman <Fahlman at Cmu-20c>

I propose that the following character sequence for joke markers:
	
:-)
	
Read it sideways.  Actually, it is probably more economical to mark
things that are NOT jokes, given current trends.  For this, use
	
:-(
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19-Sep-82 13:46    Pat Langley at CMU-10A       house for sale
Our house in Squirrel Hill is for sale. For details, see house.txt[a310pl20].

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19-Sep-82 17:16    Mike Blackwell               Biking
From: Mike Blackwell <Blackwell at CMU-20C>
Well, Nivek, Pat and I made to Ohio and back on Saturday, and lived to
tell about it! Highlites were: wild cows and ducks, twenty five thousand
Coke machines, a direct correlation between dead 'possums and Corvettes
on the road, some really great hills, the best apples we've ever had,
and Stubenville.

Anyway, Nivek and I know of lots of good and bad biking roads in the
area, and would like to share the knowledge. If you are ever inclined
on taking a trip, we may be able to give you pointers on a good route.
Better yet, if you want to go on a medium (~50 miles) to long (~100
miles) trip, you can probably twist our arms into going with you.

So if you are at all interested in bike touring the western PA area, let
me know. If I get enough (any?) response, I will try to organize
something (me, organized? ha!).

		Cheers,
		-mike-
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19-Sep-82 18:20    Matthew Lewis at CMU-10A     Things we shouldn't know?
Herb Simon will be giving a lecture entitled:
        "Are there things we should not know?
                Social responsibility and science"
 - Thursday, 23 September, at 3:30
 - Frick Fine Arts Auditorium
(The building to the left after you go over the bridge towards Pitt)
        This event is the first in a series sponsored by the
Pitt Forum for Social Responsibility and Values.

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19-Sep-82 18:56    Jeff Shrager at CMU-10A      38521,03,9(6),9(9),1(5),0
Just signifying that a message is a joke is certainly not sufficient.  
One can develop a taxonomy of bboard message types along several different
dimensions.  Also, where a continuum is preferable to a taxonomy (such as
where humor value is at issue) one can similarly use a scale to indicate
where along that scale this message lies.  Suppose that all dimensions are
refered to by a ten point scale (we'll use all integers here although one
can certainly imagine reals in the case of fine grain continuous scales).
Some dimensions will be bitwise encoded as well.
Here is a sample of a coding scheme:
 
COMMUNITY: (this is a binary scale with a bit position for
            each department totalling about 32 bits)
TOPIC: (two digits 00-99)
        (00) Political, (01) Scientific, (02) Computer, (03) Meta, etc
FLAME VALUE: (continuous 0.0-10.0)
HUMOR VALUE: (0.0-10.0)
BORDOM VALUE: (0.0-10.0)
INFORMATIONAL CONTENT: (-10.0 (for queries) to 10.0 (for their answers))
 
Note that some of these scales are purely according to the opinion
of the author.  Thus, we provide, also, a confidence scale: to go along
with each continuous scale (to be enclosed in parens after the value).

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20-Sep-82 08:34    Jaime Carbonell at CMU-10A   & # % :-) ...
To resolve ambiguity, how about a JOKE BB? We can hook up some of that
highly-touted write-only memory just for this purpose.  While I'm at it,
how about a flame BB using the latest cryogenic junction memory (to cool
down the contents of the memory, of course).

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20-Sep-82 09:03    Hans Burgstaller at CMU-750Y Looking for dentist
 Yesterday when I was eating a candy I was suddenly surprised to
find the crown of a tooth in this candy. As I don't know how to fix
it by myself and as I don't know any good dentist in this area
I need your advice for a good dentist. The sooner I can get an appointment
the better. If you know a good dentist , please send mail to hxb@cmuy.
                                         -- T H A N K S 
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20-Sep-82 09:43    Jill Fain at CMU-10A         ROGUE addicts
I feel that the current condition of the top score file is
sadly prohibitive of ROGUE playing in the true spirit of the
game and offer the following suggestion: The current file be zeroed
and the file be re-zeroed each time the #10 score exceeds 5000.
One implication of this is that people that insist on exploiting
the arrow trap bug will simply fill up the file and get it
zeroed out. I get a lot less out of playing if I don't at least
have a fighting chance to get on the high score list. If I get
a consensus, I will take the actions outlined above, mail to
Fain on CMUA.

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20-Sep-82 12:52    Jan Zubkoff at CMU-10A       Spring 82 15-211
I have graded homework assignments from last semester's 15-211 class.
If you haven't picked these up and want them, come and get 'm.  I
will throw them out in one week.  Thanks

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20-Sep-82 12:56    Jaime Carbonell at CMU-10A   IC Prog. contest update
   We need a rough tally of the number of entrants in each category of
the IC contest so that we may allocate our resources accordingly. 
Please send me mail if you intend to enter; this is a non-binding
declaration of intent only.  
   On a related note, I had at least three people tell me that they
either already have a working program or are almost there but plan not
submit their entry "because it probably won't win". Now, if everyone
thinks this way, some turkey might steal the prize by being the
only entrant. If you go to the trouble of producing a program, by all 
means submit it!  You have nothing to loose but your pride (not even that,
we'll only publicize the winners, and promise not to give booby prizes).

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20-Sep-82 13:23    Paul Birkel at CMU-10A       Now don't forget.............
 
                to order your cheese soon. The order closes Friday at
        2 PM to non-shareholders and the following Tuesday at 2 PM to
        shareholders. So don't say we didn't tell you so!

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20-Sep-82 13:32    Anoop Gupta at CMU-10A       Parking Permit
I am interested in purchasing a parking permit for any (preferably 
Morewood) of the university parking lots. Warner hall has sold out
all parking lots completely, so if there is anybody out there who
does not use his/her parking permit, and is willing to sell it, please
let me know. Mail to AG70 @ CMUA. Thanks.

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20-Sep-82 13:54    Wilson Harvey at CMU-IUS     Scribe includes ...
I am having a problem.  Does anyone know how to get rid of the default
extension ".mss" on UNIX scribe when doing an include?  If so, PLEASE drop
me a message. 
                        Your help is much appreciated,
                                'ilson

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20-Sep-82 15:35    Phil Miller at CMU-10A       PGR and TG
The Pretty Good Race will begin promptly at 5pm.
 
The following TG will be in honor of the people who
helped build the 5419 introductory programming lab.

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20-Sep-82 16:23    Dave Touretzky at CMU-10A    (-: bboard software change
As of October 1st, the General bboard will be renamed the Jokes bboard.
Please update your SWITCH.INI file.  In the event of a serious notice,
we will post it under the name "Sharon Burks".  When the bboard contains
messages whose total bogosity score exceeds 5000 microLenats, the file
will be zeroed so novice bboard players can have a chance to score.

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20-Sep-82 16:43    Larry Matthies at CMU-10A    Car for picnic
I need a volunteer to pick up supplies at Victoria's Sunday
morning for the picnic.  There will be ice, a keg, and
soft drinks, so one person with a big vehicle or two with
small cars will be needed.  Thanks in advance for your help.
Don't forget, sign-up for the picnic is in the CS main office.

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20-Sep-82 17:16    Robert Frederking at CMU-10A Re: new TOPS-10 users
        Actually, you might not want to delete the FTP.LOG file, since
it tells you whether mail you've sent has been mailed yet or not.  This
is what generally gets printed at you when you log in.  If you aren't
terribly concerned, you can delete it (the mailer will tell you if it
gives up).

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20-Sep-82 17:33    Michael Mauldin at CMU-780G  Picnic Sports
Hi. I'm Fuzzy your Sports Director. 

If you're going to the CSD Picnic, I would appreciate some help in assuring
that we have a minimum of sports equipment available so all S/HE-wo/men can
show off those muscles built during the summer. We need the following

	Volleyball/Net (1)
	Soccer (1)
	Football (1)
	Softball (1)
	Frisbee (???)

If you are bringing any of these items and/or would like to coordinate one of
these sports, please send me mail (on the A or G).

Fuzzy.
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20-Sep-82 17:39    Jill Fain at CMU-10A         ROGUE Revisited
Ok, except for one response of "no", those of you who bothered
to address the question in my bboard message said "yes" to zeroing
out the file along the guidelines proposed. The rest of you merely
expressed your opinion on the utility of the arrow bug. So, three
orders of business:
 
1. unless someone mugs me in the hall in the next few days or
   deluges me with mail to the contrary, I will probably zero the
   file on Wednesday or Thursday.
 
2. If people want I can set up an "All-time Top Ten" file, so that
   those of you with wins in the past can still point to them with
   pride.
 
3. There is a new and order(s) of magnitude more difficult version
   of ROGUE out there -- I'd be willing to try to get a hold of it
   if people are interested (the arrow bug has been fixed in it).
 
--> For those of you who don't know what the arrow bug is: sometimes
    when the arrow from an arrow trap misses you the value of the
    arrow as a weapon has been initialized to a negative (hence a VERY
    big positive) number. Consequently, if you wield that arrow as a weapon
    it will kill anything with a few hits. (well, that's a sort of general
    explanation, anyway).
 
--> To those of you who mentioned the "haste self" bug, it is a dubious one.
    I have heard from those who say they've used it and from others who
    claimed to have uttered all appropriate incantations with no effect.
 
--> and are you all familiar with the "ghost ring" bug??????

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20-Sep-82 17:39    Ron Cole at CMU-IUS          Computer Disk Jockey
The following news release was issued today by WDVE:

This Friday,  September 24, WDVE 102 FM, Pittsburgh, will experiment
with a computer-operated completely synthesized voice.  The voice,
affectionately known as "Hal", will be introduced at 6:30 A.M.
"Hal" will assume a role as a new member of the Jimmy and Steve morning team.

The human-like voice is generated in a text-to-speech converter
which was developed by the California based Telesensory Speech 
Systems, Inc.

The introduction of "Hal" to the morning show is part of ongoing
speech recognition and sysnthesis research sponsored by nearby
Carnegie-Mellon University.

Use of computer generated voice as a radio personality is unprecedented.
"Hal" will tell jokes, give time checks and weather.  He or "it" will
also read preprogrammed news and take telephone calls on-the-air.  The
speech generator can accept typed strings of text and immediately
provide intelligible voice from an unlimited vocabulary.  The blanket
program from which "Hal" will speak was done by Robert Marince on an
Apple 2+ microcomputer.

Following his 'DVE debut "Hal" will be interviewed by KQV news coordinator,
Mark Schreiber.
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20-Sep-82 17:49    Richard Cohn at CMU-10A      Missing Coffee Cup
Have you seen a lonely coffee cup lately  It says "I NJ" on the side,
perhaps in reference to the well-known NY advertising campaign.
Send mail or call x3067 if you have any info.

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20-Sep-82 17:56    15-1xx Labs at CMU-750Y      jokes \__/
We on the gandalf vax have our own code word for a joke. The above symbol
is universally known as a smile.

Also, perhaps Jeff could include in his scale a "length to humor ratio", 
as we seem to notice that the relation between some post's lengths are 
inversely proportional to their length.

		Not Sharon Burks,
		'ob and 'im
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20-Sep-82 18:47    Feng-Hsiung Hsu at CMU-10A   GO meeting...
The GO meeting this week will be held 5pm Tuesday as usual. But I am
proposing to change the time for the meetings after this one to 6pm
Monday. I am also proposing that we start a weekly one-hour teaching
session. The advanced players can serve as the teacher in rotation.
The time for this session is proposed to be 6pm Thursday, subject to
occasional change by the teacher. Please send mail to me to express
your opinion, and please include your mailing address in the mail--
I am establishing a mailing list.

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20-Sep-82 18:58    Leonard Hamey at CMU-10A     Mail to TOPS-E
 
Is it possible to get mail through to TOPS-E?
If so, could someone please give details.
 
                                Thanks, Leonard Hamey

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20-Sep-82 19:25    James Saxe at CMU-10A        Brevity is the soul of wit.

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20-Sep-82 19:44    KING at KESTREL              "free" credit cards - do they still exist?
	Many banks are charging consumers for bank credit cards.  I'd
like to avoid this if I could, and I understand many banks still offer
free cards.  Is anyone out there using a bank that still offers "free"
cards?  If not a California bank, would they be willing to offer out
of state?

	I will compile a list of responses and mail it to anyone
interested - send me a request.

	Requests and responses to KING@KESTREL, please.

					Dick
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20-Sep-82 19:59    Brady J  Michael             Robot hackers wanted at MIT
From: Brady J  Michael <BRADY at MIT-OZ>
The Artificial Intelligence Laboratory of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology invites applications for the following positions:

RESEARCH SPECIALIST:  Individual will develop and maintain PDP11 and VAX
software supporting exotic peripherals; will determine the nature of and localize hardware failures; will assist researchers in the development of system-
software interfaces; and will perform picture and sensor input and output operations for the computer robotics and vision groups.  Individual will report to
the Laboratory's Robotic Systems Coordinator and will assist approximately 15
research scientists and graduate students.  Individual must have experience
with PDP11 Assembly language, PDP10 Assembly language, and DOS operating system.  Person must have considerable knowledge of PDP11 and VAX architecture,
UNIBUS, process-control computer methods, and photographic techniques.  This
position requires a bachelor's degree in a related field or a combination of
related education and substantial experience.  Interest in computer vision and
robotics and eagerness to collaborate with researchers is essential.  The annual salary is $20,000.

RESEARCH SCIENTIST:  The Laboratory has a new program that requires several 
kinds of creative people, such as the following:  imaginative mechanical designers to work on new arms and hands featuring dexterity and speed coupled with
force and touch sensors; experts in manipulator control to work on new control
ideas; experts in vision to apply ideas about two and three-dimensional perception to inspection, parts acquisition, and assembly; specialists in high-level
programming languages, with a thorough understanding of LISP and artificial-
intelligence work on programming languages, to work on languages, problem-solvers, and spatial-reasoning packages.  Applicants in these areas must be strongly motivated to work on problems with practical importance, such as the problem of locating, identifying, retrieving, and installing parts.
Position requires a minimum of a master's degree in Artificial Intelligence, or a field closely related to robotics, in addition to at least two years of
directly related experience doing high-level research in Robotics for a university or industrial research laboratory.  The yearly salary is $24,000.

Contact Michael Brady at (617) 253-5868 or (617) 646-6815 or Brady@MIT-AI.
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20-Sep-82 22:33    James Driscoll at CMU-10A    IC After Dark
The first meeting of the (unofficial) IC mini-course ``Pittsburgh After
Dark'' will be this Thursday at 9:00 PM in the CS lounge.  The first
lecture will be ``Shadyside Bars:  Taxonomy, Characteristics, and
Examples.''  Lab follows lecture.  Participants should bring proof of
age.  New students are encouraged to attend.
   
|-: (This is not a joke)

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20-Sep-82 22:43    Bob Chansler at CMU-10A      Bicycle to CSD picnic
I plan to bicycle to (and from) the picnic, and would welcome the
company of anyone who would care to join me.  The trip requires 
about 1.5-2 hours each way and is suitable for anyone who rides a
bicycle for recreation.  Send a message if you are interested or have
questions.

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20-Sep-82 23:15    Louis Monier at CMU-10A      Le Car for sale
For sale: Renault Le Car 1978, 40K miles, new inspection, good
condition, $2000/best offer.
Call Joe (NOT ME!!!) 9-5: 261-1732
Evenings and week-end: 362-4651.
It's a nice orange small thing that I rode a couple of times, but I am
not the owner, so don't call me. The owner is moving to Europe, so
he is in a hurry to sell.

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20-Sep-82 23:37    Norm Pleszkoch at CMU-10A    WHO concert tickets
For sale: Four tickets for the final tour of the WHO concert.
Sept 28, Civic Arena. Best offer. Call Jill Brown at 683-1878
evenings only. Don't call me.

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21-Sep-82 00:19    GWILSON at USC-ECL           VLDB refunds -- update
As the treasurer for VLDB-82 let me set a couple of things straight
about the refunds, of which I have seen a couple of messages now.

(1) Only people who paid for the entire package (air and hotel) through
    Almaden Travel should expect any refunds.  The remainder of you
    have already received a refund in the form of a reduced hotel rate
    if your reservation was made through Almaden.

(2) Checks for those owed refunds should be going out within the next
    week or so.  These will be handled by Almaden, but please give
    them a chance to get things wrapped up.  If anyone has a problem,
    you can reach me through my Net mailbox, or by Ma Bell at
    (415) 941-3912.  Please give us a little time to get caught up
    before you get frustrated and call.

I am also interested in comments from all of you regarding the organization
of the conference, technical content, etc.  For those who have not heard,
the official decision is to hold the next conference in Italy. Specific date
and location are still being worked out.

Gerry
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21-Sep-82 10:30    Mario Barbacci at CMU-10A    Computer Systems Qualifier
                Computer Systems Qualifier
 
Students interested in taking the Computer Systems Qualifier this
semester should read DSKB:POST.PRE[L410MB25]@CMUA.  That document
describes the new qualifier format and as a free bonus it includes a
description of the task topics (but not the actual assignment, of
course!). THE DEADLINE FOR SIGNING UP IS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 1ST.

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21-Sep-82 12:43    David Lamb at CMU-10A        Brian Reid wins award
According to the Score BBoard, Brian has won the Grace Hopper award.
This is awarded annually by ACM for the "best young computer
scientist", and is based on work done by the recipient when under 30
years of age.

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21-Sep-82 13:29    Mario Barbacci at CMU-10A    Comp.Systems. Qualifier
After I posted my previous notice, several students pointed out that
POST.PRE was clobbered. I apologize for the problem.
DSKB:POST.PRE[L410MB25]@CMUA has been recreated.

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21-Sep-82 13:59    John Schlag at CMU-750R      polarizers

    I'm looking for sheets of polarizing glass or plastic about one foot
square. Is there anyone who can give me pointers to optical bench component
suppliers or large photography places that have these? Thanx.

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21-Sep-82 14:27    Wilson Harvey at CMU-IUS     (-:  Dramatic bb posts  :-)
could be flagged with the above notation.  Things like ...

    "I was a Teen-age Hacker"

            or

    "I won't write that subroutine for you.  I won't because every part of
     me wants to."

    
:-| 
    Seriously, I have found someone's pen in the CS Supply Room.  Send me
    mail to get it back.
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21-Sep-82 17:15    Gregg Podnar at CMU-10A      Happy Autumnal Equinox

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21-Sep-82 17:29    David Lamb at CMU-10A        Office Automation survey
Professor Treu of the University of Pittsburgh is conducting a survey
of computer scientists interested in Office Automation, in connection
with ACM SIGOA.  I have posted the cover letter and sample
questionnaire on the physical BBoard outside the fourth floor lounge.
Please consider filling out this form if your current work has
something to do with OA.

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21-Sep-82 17:35    Neal Feinberg at CMU-10A     Bales of Hay?
Does anyone know of a good place to buy bales of hay or
straw from This place should be willing to deliver the bales
as I do not own anything suitable for moving them.

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21-Sep-82 18:30    Michael Shamos at CMU-10A    Congratulations to Brian Reid
It's official.  ACM in New York verifies that Brian Reid won the Grace 
Murray Hopper award for work in text processing and computerized
typesetting, specifically Scribe.  The award will be presented at the
ACM meeting in Dallas on October 25.  This is terrific news for Brian
and for CMU.  UNILOGIC is planning appropriate commemorative festivities.

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21-Sep-82 18:38    Peg Schafer at CMU-10A       did you ever hear of popple?
I am posting this for Pete Konicheck.  
Has anyone ever heard of a bio statistical/medical/applications
package called POPPLE ?  If so, please call Pete Konicheck collect
206-575-5049.  He would be grateful for any help.

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21-Sep-82 18:56    Jim Crowley at CMU-10A       Robotics Seminar
This year we are reviving the weekly Robotics Seminar Series.
After considerable search we have found a room ( Ph 21 ) and 
a time ( Tues 3:30 to 5:00 ). So now we need speakers.
The purpose of the series is to provide exposure for the
robotics related research activities of both C-MU people
and visitors. If you have a favorite scientist or project
about which you would like to hear, an outside visitor
who would be willing to make a presentation, or are ready 
to expose your own robotics-related work to public scrutiny,
please send me mail. The speaker schedule is still wide open,
so now is the time to act.

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21-Sep-82 19:02    Jim Crowley at CMU-10A       Robotics Seminar
Due to a conflict with the AI seminar, the robotics seminar
will NOT be held on Tuesdays at 3:30 as previously stated.
The time and place will be announced when an available room 
is found.

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21-Sep-82 19:41    Phil Hayes at CMU-10A        Any more reception receipts?
If you brought food to the Departmental reception on September 11, would
like reimbursement, but have not yet been reimbursed, you should send
receipts for your expenses to me before the end of the week when I plan to
close the books.  If you have already submitted receipts, but have not
received reimbursement, please let me know immediately.  This does not 
apply if you submitted the receipts today.

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21-Sep-82 20:36    Phil Miller at CMU-10A       Run With The Boss
Don't forget the Pretty Good Race at 5PM Wednesday.
I'm  happy to say that Nico Habermann will be running with us
(and finishing ahead of most of us) this year!
 
Also don't forget the following TG.  Text of my thank you to
the Department cn be found in thank.doc[c316pm50] on cmua.

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21-Sep-82 21:41    Philip Lehman at CMU-10A     Autumnal Equinox
According to the Old Farmer's Almanac, autumn begins Thursday morning:
    ``Fall arrives at 4:46 am EDT [1:46 am PDT] on the 23rd, the
autumnal equinox, when the sun crosses the celestial equator....''

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21-Sep-82 22:12    Mark Stehlik at CMU-10A      Pretty Good Race T shirts
There are still T shirts to be had in my office.  Come by anytime tomorrow
to pick yours up.  Anytime from 9 to 4 (before the race) in 8122.
 

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21-Sep-82 22:39    Nathaniel Borenstein         Roddenberry at CMU Weds.
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
Gene Roddenberry will be speaking at CMU at 7:30 Wednesday 9/22.  He'll
also be showing a reel of Star Trek outtakes (bloopers, etc.) and the
original version of the pilot for the series.  Tickets are available in
Skibo and are apparently going fast.  Only one ticket may be purchased
at student rates for each student ID.  This is a must for serious trekkies.
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21-Sep-82 23:04    Immigration Course           Changes to IC schedule
From: Immigration Course at CMU-10A
The IC research talk on SPICE has been moved to 10:00, 9/30.
The SCRIBE talk has been moved to 10:00, 9/28.

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21-Sep-82 23:17    Matt Reilly at CMU-10A       cross assemblers/compilers
Does anyone out there know of a PLM/86 cross compiler or 
an 8086 cross assembler running on the CSD machines? 
Any other development software for 8086/88's around?
++ tnx for any help.
                                        matt

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21-Sep-82 23:30    Frankie Ferguson at CMU-10A  Lost Keys
I lost a keyring (probably in Porter or 3rd floor Science Hall).
It has an X 1 key and an IE 11 key plus about 8 others.  If you find
it I'll be in Porter Hall 18A most of the night.  I'll also be periodically
checking my mail on the A.
                                Thanks,
                                Joel

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22-Sep-82 01:00    Roger Dannenberg at CMU-10A  RT11 wizard sought
If you know anything about RT11, especially the XM (extended memory)
monitor, I would be grateful if you could help me with the problem
described in all:rt11.txt[c410rd60]@cmua.  Thanks.

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22-Sep-82 12:09    Mike Kazar at CMU-10A        Israeli peace rally in Pgh.
Here is a verbatim reproduction of a recent flyer,
followed by a few comments.
 
Flyer Start -----------------------------
 
DAN GORDON FROM PEACE NOW
 
Dan Gordon is an official representative of Peace Now.
Peace Now, an organization formed after the 1973 war by
Israeli veterans and army reservists, held a demonstration
in March 1982 to protest the government's policies towards
settlements in the Golan Heights and the West Bank.
26 Knesset members, including Abba Eban, supported the
demonstration.
More recently, they sponsored a demonstration in Tel-Aviv
where 200,000 people voiced their opposition to the Israeli
invasion of Lebanon.
Clearly not all Israelis support Begin's militaristic policies;
as American Jews, we don't have to either.
Dan Gordon will present a view rarely heard in the organized Jewish
Community.
 
PEACE IS GREATER THAN GREATER ISRAEL!
 
THURSDAY SEPT 30 at 8pm
COLFAX SCHOOL (Beechwood & Phillips)
 
Donation requested
 
Sponsored by Jews for Peace and Justice
 
Flyer End  ------------------------------------
 
A few comments:
 
POLITICAL BACKGROUND:  Peace now is often linked with the 
dovish half of the Labor opposition party.
It is by no means the most radically dovish group in the Israeli
political establishment.
The late Messrs Goldman, Sharet and Lavon, respectively
President of the World Jewish Congress, Prime Minister and Defense
Minister, argued for a practically complete withdrawal from the 
occupied territories.
General Mati Peled, chief of military intelligence in the 1967 war,
has been calling for talks with the PLO and the establishment of 
a Palestinian state.  Uri Avneri, MP, has been arguing for a confederation
linking a Palestinian state with Israel, with Jerusalem as common capital.
 
 
THE STRUGGLE ON U.S. JEWISH SUPPORT:
Most commentators in the Israeli press believe that the success of
Begin's annexionist policies will be decided by the attitude of
the US Jewish community.
The opposition in Israel, widely supported as it may be,
has little if any real power.
Jewish opposition to Begin in the US, however, would affect the financial,
diplomatic and moral postures of Begin's Likud government.

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22-Sep-82 12:18    Lydia Stepita at CMU-10A     T-Shirt For Sale
T-Shirts with the Robotics logo are still available for purchase.
They are black with a  yellow logo in the upper right hand corner.  
The cost is $3.50/each.  If you are interested, please see Lydia in
4630 Wean Hall.  THE ORDER CLOSES THIS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 24th.
                                        Thank you!

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22-Sep-82 12:21    Cheese Coop at CMU-10A       Order Still Open
        But the order still closes to non-shareholders on Friday
        the 24th at 2 PM, so if you don't yet have shares order!

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22-Sep-82 12:34    Mike Kazar at CMU-10A        Lounge rennovation
As some of you may remember, a lounge rennovation committee was formed
last spring to suggest improvements to the CS lounge.  Our budget is
approximately $3000.  Here is a list of our suggested improvements.  We
would like to hear any comments people have on the subject (by Friday
if possible) so as to be able to finalize our plans soon.  Some of these
items require some voluntary effort on the part of the department; if
you'd like to volunteer, please send me mail.  In addition, we could use
some volunteers to handle the actual implementation of the plan.
Anyway, here is the plan:
 
1) Paint the walls some shade of white.  This includes spreading a
filler compound over the cinder blocks and concrete to smooth the
surface, and then painting.  This should cost about $250, not including
labor.  Instead of painting the walls, putting wood panels or some form
of carpet on the walls is also being looked at, if we can get a good
enough price.
 
2) Replace the current lounge chairs and sofas with 6 to 8 new chairs,
at a cost of about $1500.  The current furniture is in sad shape.  The
proposal is to acquire chairs only (no sofas).  The perception is that
people prefer to sit in chairs; with the current sofas primarily being
employed as beds.  The question is open to debate, but we find it
reasonable that people should find a less public place to sleep (such
as their office).
 
3) There is a major need for more bookshelf space, so it is proposed
that the entire wall now dedicated to darts (and a small bookcase)
should be made into floor to ceiling bookshelves.  This could be either
shelves attached to the wall or floor-standing bookcases.
 
4) Remove the vinyl room partitions (by the kitchen area and the middle
of the room).  These consume space for no function and can be removed
for no cost by a small amount of voluntary labor.
 
5) Shelves on which kitchen utensils can be stored will be installed in
the upper half of the area freed by removing the vinyl room partitions.
This should help relieve the clutter on the counters.
 
6) Remove the two coat racks (the one with the dart board, and the one
next ot the blackboard).  These racks consume space without purpose.
Dart playing has reach such a low ebb that dedicating a whole wall to
that purpose no longer seems justified.  There is no cost attached to
this, as it can be accomplished by a small amount of voluntary labor.
 
7) Acquire an electric broom that can be stored in the lounge, for
small spur of the moment cleanup jobs.  It will be stored in the bottom
half of the space freed up by removing the vinyl partitions next ot the
kitchen area.
 
8) Get the carpet cleaned.
 
9) The table currently making the one window inaccessible will be moved
to where the sofas currently are.  The window, and an additional chair
space can then be integrated into the area in which most people tend to
sit.
 
10) A number of magazine racks will be acquired for the loose magazines
and tech reports that currently clutter up the tables.

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22-Sep-82 12:38    Sylvia Hoy at CMU-10A        Official '82-'83....
Campus calendars are available in the main office. Come and get it!!!!!

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22-Sep-82 12:43    Robert Thibadeau at CMU-10A  Pittsburgh Zoo Options
The zoo is a worthwhile place to visit, but in my three years 
in Pittsburgh I have watched it deteriorate for lack of funds.
Fortunately they have this wonderful 'adopt an animal' program.
The adoption can be a day or month.  Orangutanns eat light at
$.75 a day or $22.50 a month, and for $15 a day or $450 a month
you get yourself an entire elephant.  Double that and you can
probably have his name changed to Clyde.  Triple it and I bet
they will let you dye him pink.  Visitation rights come with any
adoption.  The flyer is on my office door -- 5321.

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22-Sep-82 12:50    Marco Annaratone at CMU-IUS  proceedings wanted
I need two proceedings:

1) Digest of Papers Spring Compcon 82

2) Proc. of the 1981 Custom Integrated Circuits Conf.

If someone has this stuff, please let me know. Thank you very much.
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22-Sep-82 13:00    Immigration Course           IC Schedule Change
From: Immigration Course at CMU-10A
There will be no Distinguished Lecture tomorrow.

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22-Sep-82 13:03    Robert Frederking at CMU-10A Bottle opener found
        An unusual bottle opener was found amongst the Coke crates
today.  Identify it (in detail) and it is yours.

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22-Sep-82 13:06    Wanda Keppler at CMU-10A     PGR RACE TODAY!
That's Right!  Today's the day of the Pretty Good Race, Rain or
Shine.  Surely the sun will shine on our Race!!!
 
For those unsure of where the race officially starts, there will
be a "guide" leaving from the CSD Lounge promptly at 4:40 to walk with
a group to the official starting line.
 
Remember, T-shirts still available in WEH 8122.

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22-Sep-82 14:14    John Schlag at CMU-750R      :-) AI Elephant (-:
I think all the members of the CMU AI community should pitch together
to adopt an elephant at the Zoo. Of course, Thibadeau's suggestion of
tripling the price should be taken.
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22-Sep-82 16:28    Barbara Zayas at CMU-750X    Solution Sets
Copies of the solution set for Merrick Furst's Regular Sets IC minicourse 
are available in my office, 4117 ScH.  Come 'n get 'em.

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22-Sep-82 16:36    Neil Swartz at CMU-750R      PLOT10 Documentation
I have a program which uses the original Tektronix PLOT10 package.  I have
been able to fake most of the routines, but I am not sure how some of them
really work.  Does anybody have a PLOT10 user's manual or anything on PLOT10?
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22-Sep-82 17:10    Nathaniel Borenstein         Clean Air Act endangered
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
The Clean Air Act is in its most difficult hours in the U.S. Senate.  In the 
face of overwhelming public support for cleaner air, opponents of stronger 
legislation have introduced three alternative "Clean Air Act" bills that
pretend to be clean air bills while actually gutting the existing laws.
Some more information is contained in /usrg0/nsb/cleanair.mss, which is a
sample letter to our Senators, both of whom are considered crucial swing
votes on this issue.  Further information is available from me.  Feel free
to copy the sample letter, change the name and address, and mail it out
yourself.
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22-Sep-82 17:44    Benjamin Atlas at CMU-10A    MOVING SALE
MOVING SALE-COMPLETE HOUSEHOLD, VERY REASONABLE PRICES
 
CALL DAN PELED 578-2274 or 422-9733
Bedroom set: full bed& maching chest  with mirror
Dinning table with 6 chairs
Sofa setsend hirsh yes,how are  you
End table
Chest of drawers
Setb of dishes
Steel file cabinet
Chairs (2)
Bricks & Shelves
Portable large BBQ grill
Small appliances

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22-Sep-82 17:47    Leonard Hamey at CMU-10A     Popcorn in the lounge?
Attention all POPCORN ADDICTS:
        
Hot air popcorn poppers are available for under $25. They are
clean, easy to operate and orders of magnitude cheaper per serving
of popcorn than the machine on level 2. So, why don't we get one for
the lounge! We could run a popcorn club along the lines of the
coffee club to supply the corn.
        
This message is intended to drum up support for the idea. So, if
you support it, please send me mail saying so. (If, for some
strange reason you have absolutely NO interest in popcorn, then
that's your loss)
        
                        Leonard Hamey

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22-Sep-82 19:04    Mark Stehlik at CMU-10A      Pretty Good Race results
The top 11 finishers (all those with times under 20 minutes) are the following:
 
POS    TIME    NAME
 
 1    16:48    Peter Highnam
 2    17:24    John Pane
 3    17:33    Rich Korf
 4    17:39    Greg Pakela
 5    18:13    Paul Clifford
 6    18:23    Larry Matthies
 7    18:58    Joel Ferguson
 8    19:09    Steve Minton
 9    19:20    Bill Karnavas
10    19:46    Regis Hoffman
11    19:48    James Staszewski
 
In all, a total of 81 runners ran in the Second Annual Pretty Good Race (as 
compared with 50 last year).  Thanks to all helped make it a success, and 
congratulations to those of you who ran.  See you next year!

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22-Sep-82 19:38    Jin Kim at CMU-10A           2nd CalTech Conf. Proceedings
Does anyone have a copy of the proceedings of the 2nd CalTech 
Conf. on VLSI  I would like to copy few of the articles..
Please send mail..

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22-Sep-82 20:51    Rebecca Freeland at CMU-10A  GSO Happy Hour
Relax and socialize with other grads at the GSO Happy Hour this
Friday at 4:30 in the Skibo Ballroom.  Beer, soda, and munchies
courtesy of the Grad Student Organization and your activities fees.

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22-Sep-82 21:23    Peter Highnam at CMU-10A     Inmac modems.
I'm looking for information on Inmac 1200 baud modems.  In
particular their performance as compared with their Vadic
equivalent.
Replies will be summarised and sent to Bovik.

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22-Sep-82 21:26    Masaru Tomita at CMU-10A     (:-O) missing picture
The picture of me on the picture board in the CS lounge is missing.
One of the members of Tommy's fan club must have taken it.
Please note that I have a wife.

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22-Sep-82 21:31    James Muller at CMU-750Y     ?
I propose that the above character be placed in the subject field of all
posts which ask questions.
						'''

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22-Sep-82 22:18    Gary Bradshaw at CMU-10A     Night Volleyball
The joint CS/Psych volleyball games are moving to evening times, starting
this week.  We will be meeting over at 8:00 p.m. in the Women's gym
every Thursday until intramurals kicks us out.  Avoid the new television
season: play volleyball instead.  For regular updates, send me a note and
I'll add you onto our mailing list.  (Note: I do NOT sell this list to
Publisher's Clearing House!)
                                        Gary Bradshaw

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22-Sep-82 23:29    Ravinder Chandhok            :-( (-:
From: Ravinder Chandhok at CMU-750Y
Perhaps what we really need is a 'bb notation' bboard for such posts
that relate to notation and signals.
				Ro'
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23-Sep-82 10:28    Nathaniel Borenstein         Popcorn poppers
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
Hot air poppers dry out the corn and produce inferior quality popcorn.  This
is not simply a personal prejudice; experts from Orville Redenbacker (sic?)
to Consumers Union agree.  How about an equally cheap oil-based popcorn
popper for the lounge?

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23-Sep-82 10:40    Stephen Hancock              Jokes
From: Stephen Hancock <SFH at CMU-20C>
With all of this talk about jokes on the BBoard, perhaps we should create a
jokes BBoard.  This would remove any doubt about whether or not the message
is a joke or not.  Additionally this would spare us from being forced to 
page through many jokes when we don't have the time to spare.  It would
also be nice to be able to decide to read through a number of hopefully
good or alteast original jokes on demand.

P.S. My reference to us/we, was how I feel about the topic.  However, I
     believe many other people feel the same way.
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23-Sep-82 10:41    SFH at CMU-20C               Jokes........

With all of this talk about jokes on the BBoard, perhaps we should create a
jokes BBoard.  This would remove any doubt about whether or not the message
is a joke or not.  Additionally this would spare us from being forced to 
page through many jokes when we don't have the time to spare.  It would
also be nice to be able to read through a number of hopefully good or
alteast original jokes on demand.

P.S. My reference to us/we, was how I feel about the topic.  However, I
     believe many other people feel the same way.
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23-Sep-82 10:59    Leonard Hamey at CMU-10A     Thankyou
Thankyou all those people who responded to my query about mail
to topse.
                                Leonard Hamey

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23-Sep-82 12:15    Michael Fryd at CMU-10A      More Popcorn
of course, with no additional investment in capital equipment we could
have microwaved popcorn.
 
Don Cohen once did a study of Microwaved popcorn and I believe that
his results indicated that good popcorn could be obtained by placing
the kernels in a brown paper bag, with a minimum of oil.

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23-Sep-82 12:27    Leonard Hamey at CMU-10A     Popcorn poll
So far, I have received 10 messages. 7 express support. 2
are concerned about spilt popcorn. 1 suggests buying microwave
popcorn.
                        Leonard Hamey

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23-Sep-82 12:45    Suzanna Garreau at CMU-10A   Meeting of MCS Faculty
All faculty are invited to attend the fall meeting of the Mellon
College of Science on
                    Tuesday, October 19
                    Wean Hall 7500
Refreshments will be served at 3:45 and the meeting will follow at 4:15.
Dean Sekerka will present the MCS Teaching Award and will discuss his
views of the College.

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23-Sep-82 13:15    Rob MacLachlan at CMU-750X   Lost Clip-Board


   I seem to have lost it either in the spice-rack or the terminal room.

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23-Sep-82 14:06    Ravinder Chandhok            bb
From: Ravinder Chandhok at CMU-750Y
Perhaps what we really need is a duplicates bb'd for 2 posts of the same
message.

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23-Sep-82 17:40    Suzanna Garreau at CMU-10A   Sohio funding
 I have put a one paged article in the mailboxes of the
CSD faculty which describes a technical symposium that was conducted
by Sohio.  Sohio is looking for projects to support.  There are some
restrictions on the kind of research they are willing to finance,
but some of the research in the CSD may fall within their area.
If you feel that you have research of likely interest
to Sohio, please inform Nico ASAP and give him a one page
proposal before October 12.

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23-Sep-82 17:59    Jan Zubkoff at CMU-10A       recipe
For those of you that found the spinich balls at the reception as delightful 
as I did, the recipe can be found in recipe.txt[c420mh60]@a  compliments
of Marty Herman.

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23-Sep-82 18:02    Jan Zubkoff at CMU-10A       recipe again
Sorry, that's recipe.txt[x420mh60]

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23-Sep-82 18:07    Vijay Saraswat at CMU-10A    LILLITH
Does anyone have a copy of N.Wirth's ETH Tech. Rep. (Nr. 30 ?)
'LILLITH : a Personal Computing System ', April , 1981(circa) ?
I need to xerox a few pages from it .... pl. mail @A

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23-Sep-82 18:34    Takeo Kanade at CMU-10A      AI seminars 82-83
The AI seminar series of 82-83 will be held on Tuedays at 3:30 in 5409
WeH, starting  on Tueday Oc 12, 1982 with
Professor John Y. Luh of Purdue as the first speaker.  The schedules
coming up are:
 
----------------
Date    Speaker                 Title
-------------------------------------
Oct 12  John Y. Luh (Purdue)    Alternative optinum control scheme for
                                industrial robots
Oct 19  John Laird (CMU)        A universal weak method
Oct 26  Eric Grimson (MIT)      TBA
Nov 2   James Allen (Rochester) TBA
Nov 9   TBA                     TBA
Nov 16  J. Traub (Columbia)     TBA
--------------------------------------
The abstracts will be posted on the AI bb and the physical bb.

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23-Sep-82 18:38    Larry Matthies at CMU-10A    Picnic maps are available...
in the CS main office.  Once again, everyone is welcome,
the cost is two dollars per adult, and a sign-up sheet is
in the CS office.  If you aren't sure about coming, pick up a map
anywayso you know how to find us.  See you at noon
Sunday in Mars Grove, North Park.

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23-Sep-82 18:40    Larry Matthies at CMU-10A    Rides for picnic
If you need a ride to the picnic, check the sign-up list for
people who said they could give rides.  If that fails, call
me and I'll match you up with someone with a car.

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23-Sep-82 18:43    Matthew Lewis at CMU-10A     Things we should not know...
A reminder:
        Herb Simon will be lecturing TODAY at 3:30 on:
"Are there things we should not know?
        Social Resonsibility and Science"
.
Frick Fine Arts Auditorium
(The building to the left, just over the bridge towards Pitt.)
This is the first in a series of events sponsored by the 
Pitt Forum for Social Responsibility and Values.

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23-Sep-82 18:51    Masaru Tomita at CMU-10A     Books for quals needed
Does anyone have any of the following books which I can borrow
during this accademic year?  Thanks  --Tommy
 -Principles of Compiler Design, Aho & Ullman
 -Operating Systems, Haberman, SRA76
 -Multiprocessors, Satyanarayanan

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23-Sep-82 18:57    Elizabeth Grgurich           Mike Lea talk
From: Elizabeth Grgurich at CMU-10A
On Monday, September 27, Mike Lea, of Brunel University, will be giving a 
talk at 1:00 in 4605 Wean Hall.  His talk is entitled "Micro-APPs: VLSI 
Associative Parallel Processors for Vector and Text Processing Applications".
An abstract is posted on the fourth floor physical bulletin board.  If you 
are interested in meeting with him, please respond to me @cmua or x3853.
 
 

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23-Sep-82 19:04    Robert Wilber at CMU-10A     Popcorn
Some time ago my parents sent me a hot air popcorn popper which I
never use.  If enough people express an interest (eg., at least one
mail message) I will be happy to sell it to the CSD community for
the unbeatable price of $0.00.

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23-Sep-82 19:11    Leonard Hamey at CMU-10A     Comments on popcorn
are available in mail file POPCORN.MSG[C410LH90] @ CMUA
                        Leonard Hamey

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23-Sep-82 19:39    Jon Bentley at CMU-10A       Programming Systems Tutorial
The P.S. tutorial lecture on Friday (9/24) will be in ScH 5409
from 10:00 to 11:15 (rather than from 11:30 to 12:45).  Tomorrow's
lecture will be on the specification and verification of heaps;
if you plan on attending the Discrete Algorithms course this
semester, you should probably attend this lecture.

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23-Sep-82 21:41    James Saxe at CMU-10A        Folk Dance File Updated
The file FOLK.TXT[c410js30] on CMUA now contains current information about
where to find various sorts of folk dancing in Pittsburgh.  Entries for
American, English, International (mostly Balkan & Israeli), Israeli, and
Scottish dancing are included.  Corrections and contributions (especially
information about dancing of any of the hundred or so nationalities not listed
above) should be mailed to Saxe @ CMUA.

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23-Sep-82 22:56    Roger Dannenberg at CMU-10A  Help wanted.
I would be grateful if someone could spare about 45 minutes at 4:30 PM
on Friday to help me move some electronics equipment to the Fine Arts
Building for the @i(Seven Visions) concert.

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23-Sep-82 23:19    Ivor Durham at CMU-10A       I need an L.L.Bean catalogue.
Does anyone have a recent L.L. Bean catalogue that I may borrow? Thanks

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24-Sep-82 00:16    Michael Mauldin at CMU-780G  Picnic
This is Mike, you sports director, again.

Okay all of you fat slobs (and the thin slobs too), we almost have this
athletic &*(*&&% all together now. Just one reminder: if you want to
play softball, at least bring your own mitt. We still need a bat, or two,
and the best offer we have so far for a ball is not promising. So, if
you think you must pass over football, frisbee, and soccer for softball,
you better get to it.				Fuzzy.
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24-Sep-82 09:48    Jill Fain at CMU-10A         ROGUE file zeroed
As promised, campers, the high score file has been zeroed. RUSH TO YOUR
TERMINALS -- now ANYONE can get on the top-ten (well, at least for  a
while). FYI: haste self bug -- quaff two haste self potions in a row
and you are permanently self-hastened; ghost ring bug -- got on a cursed
ring (piece of armour) and no remove curse scroll? drop everything and
attack the nearest nymph! It'll steal your remaining object. Only one
problem -- ROGUE still thinks you have the ring/armour on and won't
let you put on another.

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24-Sep-82 09:59    Cheese Coop at CMU-10A       Time is running out!
        Remember to order before 2 PM if you do NOT have shares, and
        You MUST leave a deposit in the Cheese mailbox before then.
                                                paul

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24-Sep-82 10:07    Jerry Agin at CMU-750R       evolution evidence
Some years back I remember reading a report that a particular strain of
laboratory animals (rats or mice) had been found to be unable to interbreed
with members of the species from which the animals had originally come.
A new species had thus arisen due to the genetic isolation of these animals.
I am now involved in an extended dialog with a friend with Creationist
leanings, and I am unable to locate any reference to this event.  Can any
one help me out?
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24-Sep-82 10:15    Dorothy Josephson at CMU-10A Workshop
The IEEE Computer Society VLSI Technical Committee is sponsoring a
workshop as follows:
                        WORKSHOP
.
             First Call for Participation
.
                 DESIGNING WITH VLSI
.
              Clearwater Beach, Florida
                 February 6-9, 1983
.
  Stimulating technical interaction - Florida in mid-winter.
.
.
Seven sessions are being organized relating to:
     VLSI Limits and Directions, Technologies and Systems
     Pushing VLSI for Performance:  NMOS, CMOS, GaAs, Bipolar
     Constraints of Design and Packaging
     Tools for Custom Design
     System and System Design with VLSI, Conventional and Special
          Architectures
.
We will highlight interaction of disciplines, system, design and
technology, and focus on system implementations realizable in the
1980's.
.
Attendance is open to participants in the above areas.  To indicate
your interest, forms to be filled out and returned can be obtained
in Wean Hall 4125.
.
Workshop Co-Chairmen:  Michael Kovac
                       University of South Florida
                       (813)974-2581
.
                       Merlin Smith
                       IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
                       (914)945-1240

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24-Sep-82 10:52    Richard Cohn at CMU-10A      DRC Election
Attn:  CS Grad Students
You will find in your mailbox a ballot for the election of a
student to fill the vacancy on the Departmental Review Committee.
There is a ballot box on top of the filing cabinets on the right
side of the main office.  You can drop your ballot in there anytime
before Thursday, September 30, at 3 pm.  Vote early, but vote once!

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24-Sep-82 11:06    Ivor Durham at CMU-10A       I have the catalogue. Thanks.

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24-Sep-82 11:13    Kamila Robertson at CMU-ZOG  User Studies open house today
Please come take a peek into the User Studies Lab in Wean 3215 today
1300-1530, just before the IC User Interfaces session (at which
you'll hear about ZOG and user studies among other things). Try out
perq ZOG!  Let us put you on TV (tape, that is, guinea pig style). 
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24-Sep-82 11:51    Lyle McGeoch at CMU-10A      Circumglobal Road Rally
I've posted information about the "Great Maltese Circumglobal
Trophy Dash" on the physical bboard.  It's basically a road
rally on maps.  It costs $15 and they supply the maps.  You have
the month of October to complete it.  Last year participants
averaged about nine hours work on it, according to the brochure.
They also claim that almost all of those people say they will enter
again.  It sounds like fun.
 
 

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24-Sep-82 12:39    Bruce Lucas at CMU-IUS       USENET help
I am attempting to send mail to a west-coast USENET address that begins
"ucbvax!...".  Can anyone help me?  Thanks in advance.
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24-Sep-82 13:27    Judy Rosenberg at CMU-10A    Car For Sale (NOT MINE)
I am posting this for someone else, so please don't ask me about it.
 
FOR SALE - one owner, 1966 Chevy Impala, 56,200 miles, power steering,
air cond., am radio, new front tires, new snow treads, 2 extra rims.
$1,000.
 
Call Dave Griffiths after 6:00 pm.  793-9349

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24-Sep-82 16:22    Jonathan Dwork at CMU-10A    chicken recipe
The recipe for the chicken I brought to the department reception is
now in a dover ready file called chicken.pre[r110jd71].  Enjoy.
--jon

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24-Sep-82 16:55    Jerry Agin at CMU-750R       evolution
Responses to my inquiry about evolution, and some related correspondence,
are in the file /usrr0/agin/temp/evolution.
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24-Sep-82 16:57    Brad Allen at CMU-10A        S,T,E,F,G,C and D...
... your dover racks are full and are spilling out onto the Dover.

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24-Sep-82 18:14    Robert Wilber at CMU-10A     popcorn
Okay, I'll bring in the popper.

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24-Sep-82 19:01    James Saxe at CMU-10A        Square Dance Saturday, 9/25
Larry Edelman will call to the music of the Moonshine Dreamers.  Details are in
SQUARE.TXT[c410js30] on CMUA.

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24-Sep-82 20:01    King at KESTREL (Dick King)  a banking & EFT group
	Would anyone be interested in a group to discuss the banking industry,
including but not limited to EFT?  I can't afford the time to moderate such
a group, but I sense an interest out there.

						Dick
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24-Sep-82 21:05    Gene Hastings                Old oscilloscope for sale
From: Gene Hastings <HASTINGS at CMU-20C>

	Hickok model 670; no trigger, single trace, 5" dia. crt.
	Goes to best offer. Call x3803, or come by 5307.

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25-Sep-82 02:02    Blatz Borenstein             Look Out, World!
From: Blatz Borenstein <Blatz Dandelion Borenstein at SHADYSIDE-HOSPITAL>
Daddy's-net-address: nsb@g
Mommy's-net-address: TRINA@CMUC

Well, ready or not, the world has another Borenstein.  I was born at
10:25 PM on Friday, September 24, and my parents immediately saddled me
with this ridiculous name.  Fortunately, they decided to make up another
name for the birth certificate, where I'm Shana Nova Borenstein.  I
weigh 7 lb. & 6 oz., which makes the doctors who were worried that I'd be
too small look pretty silly.  I'm fine, Mommy's fine, and Daddy'll be
fine if he can ever calm down enough to go to sleep.  Yes, I'm a girl.
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25-Sep-82 10:55    Donald Kaiser at CMU-10A     Haircuts
Can anyone highly recommend a haircutter for both men and
women, who charges less than $20 and is located in this
general vicinity Send mail to dlk@cmuc.  Thanks.

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25-Sep-82 12:09    Feng-Hsiung Hsu at CMU-10A   GO Meeting Schedule
The weekly GO meeting is now scheduled at 6pm Monday, starting next Monday.
The place is still CS Lounge. There will be a weekly teaching session
every Thursday evening. The details will be posted later. People with GO
board are urged to bring their boards along. Scoring sheets are now
available by dovering GO.PRESS[c410fh90] on CMUA. The sheets can be used
to play the game if you don't have any board.

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25-Sep-82 12:22    Larry Matthies at CMU-10A    Picnic maps
There are maps to tomorrow's picnic posted on the IC bulletin
board and in the CS lounge.

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25-Sep-82 12:55    Maria Wadlow at CMU-10A      IBM Company Song (?)
I vaguely seem to recall seeing the lyrics and music to the IBM
Company song posted on the 4th floor physical bboard.  Does 
anyone know where I can get a copy  Reply to mw38@cmua. Thanks!

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25-Sep-82 13:16    Rudy Nedved at CMU-10A       ARPANET down on October 1st.
On Saturday October 1st, from 12:00 to 16:00 EDT, the entire ARPANET
will not forward NCP traffic and will only forward TCP traffic.
 
In other words, the ARPANET service for CMUC, CMUA and CMUB will not
work during this short four hour time period.
 
ARPANET connections established before this time period will either
timeout or be aborted.  EtherNet, DECNet and Front End service will
be unaffected. ARPANET mail service will be delayed for at least four
hours.

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25-Sep-82 14:12    Rudy Nedved at CMU-10A       ARPANET down.
Correction: October 1st is a Friday. I thought the ARPANET people
were going to be nice about it and disable NCP during the weekend.

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25-Sep-82 14:22    Kesav Nori at CMU-10A        cheap terminal and modem
A friend of mine, a student at Pitt, is in the market for a cheap
used dumb terminal and a 300 baud modem. I'd appreciate any help
regarding where he should look/shop and how much he would have to
pay for them. Please mail to Nori@A. Thanks.

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25-Sep-82 17:34    Victor Milenkovic at CMU-10A Lisp Init File
Could someone with a nice Maclisp initialization file on CMUA
please send me a pointer to it?  Also, I am pretty sure I can
FTP compiled programs from the C to the A, but what should the
extension of such a file be?  Thanks.

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25-Sep-82 17:56    Lee Brownston at CMU-10A     Books for Sale
I have included prices in my list of books for sale.  There are now
only (!) 117 items on the list.  Hard copies have been posted on the
physical bulletin board by the lounge, on the third floor of Baker
Hall, and on the fourth floor of Langley Hall at Pitt.  The version
most likely to be up-to-the-minute is in the file books.txt[a780lb90]
on CMU-10A.

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25-Sep-82 20:01    David Dill at CMU-10A        new help list
See DSKB:HELP.TXT[L170DD60] or <DILL>HELP.TXT.

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26-Sep-82 02:07    James Muller at CMU-750Y     yes, its time again
To ask everyone (again) to please look at the letters on the upper left
of the dover cover sheet, and file in that rack. Everyone loves to file my
output under M, even though it says

	J J J J J J		James Muller

on it, and I'm not willing to have it just say

	J J J J J J		James

on it, because that would look stupid.
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26-Sep-82 14:01    Maria Wadlow at CMU-10A      Found song...Thanks!

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26-Sep-82 18:08    Larry Matthies at CMU-10A    Picnic leftovers in lounge
Most of the keg, some hamburgers, etc. are free for the taking
in the lounge.  Come'n'git it!

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26-Sep-82 18:27    Larry Matthies at CMU-10A    Articles left at picnic
Two frisbees and a child's ball were left at the picnic.  They
are in my office (WeH 4105) if you wish to claim them.

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26-Sep-82 20:19    Andreas Nowatzyk at CMU-10A  Election in Germany
After the recent crash of Germans ruling coalition of
the Social Democrats (SPD) and the Free Democratic Party (FDP, Liberals),
the election in Hessen (a state of Germany) became an important indicator
for the future trend of the German politics. Here is the result:
CDU (Christian Democratic Union, Conservatives)   45.6% = 52 seats
SPD (Social Democrats, a moderate left party)     42.8% = 49 seats
FDP (Free Democratic Party, Liberals)              3.1% =  0 seats (1)
Green Party (2)                                    8.0% =  9 seats
                          ...
1: In Germany, a party must have at least 5% of the votes in order to
   be represented in the parliament.
2: The Green Party is a very heterogeneous collection of peace, anti-nuclear,
   civil rights, christian, women's rights and environment preservation
   movements (to name only a few of several hundreds). Founded in the
   mid 70's, it has received continuously rising support in all recent election
                          ...
Note: this is the second (of 11) german state that has been forced to form a
      Government with some kind of green support!

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26-Sep-82 21:18    Victor Milenkovic at CMU-10A Maclisp Question Answered

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26-Sep-82 22:12    Bulletin Board at CMU-10B    CMUB goes xenophobic
CMUB is being withdrawn from the system-wide bboard system.
This removal is probably temporary, but is open-ended.
It was done both to reduce the load on the B and to reduce
the load on the CMUA mail system.  CMUB will continue to have
a local bboard, and will continue to receive the TOPS10,
SYSTEM, and SAILIB bboards.
 
If this change constitutes a hardship for you, please send
mail to GRIPE explaining your problem.

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26-Sep-82 22:48    Jeff Shrager at CMU-10A      $10 to hack a robot aloud!
If you've never heard of a Big Trak you can make $10 by being a subject
in a psychology experiment.  All you'll have to do is to learn how to 
make it work and tell me what you're doing as you play with it.  The Big
Trak is a toy tank that can be programmed.  I will also be interested in
the future in people who have never used an HP (or similar) calculator
(and don't plan on doing so in the near future).  Big bucks for hacking
out loud!  Let me know if you're interested.  I can't promise to be able
to use all respondents.

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27-Sep-82 02:00    Kim fateman@Berkeley         Mathematical Representation and Manipulation

 Representation and Manipulation of Mathematical Knowledge

                      Richard Fateman
        Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences
                            and
          Center for Pure and Applied Mathematics
             University of California, Berkeley

     We are starting a newly-funded multi-year research pro-
ject   to  study  the  representation  and  manipulation  of
mathematical knowledge, and related research areas.  In par-
ticular,  we  will be addressing problems which arise natur-
ally in building computer programs  to  deal  with  symbolic
mathematical  notation  and  algorithms, and establishing an
advanced environment for scientific computation.

     Positions are open for

(1)  several  full-time   distinguished   researchers   with
     records  of  high productivity in the field of symbolic
     and algebraic computation.

(2)  a number of short-term visitors (1 to 6 months) who are
     expert  in applied mathematics, mathematical physics or
     other existing or potential applications areas of  com-
     puters  to symbolic computation.  These visitors should
     have a strong desire to learn more about such  systems,
     and  should  be  willing  to  contribute  to the design
     phases of a new system.  Some  visitors  will  be  con-
     sidered  whose  major  expertise  is  in the design and
     implementation of algebraic manipulation algorithms and
     systems.

     We  will  also  consider  support  or  other   research
     involvement  for participants located outside Berkeley,
     especially those who have initially participated in the
     visitor program.

(3)  support staff who would assist in maintaining  existing
     equipment  and  software, and specify and configure new
     hardware.  Current facilities at UC Berkeley include  a
     large  number  of  DEC  VAX 11/780 and 11/750 computers
     running the UNIX  operating  system  in  a  distributed
     (Ethernet)  environment,  joined to a variety of 68000-
     based graphics and computation workstations.  We expect
     that  most work in the future would be on (more) power-
     ful networked personal scientific  workstation  comput-
     ers.

     The objective of this research is  to  provide  insight
into  the basic information science problems in mathematical
representation and algorithms that have emerged in the  past
15  years  of  work  on such systems as Macsyma, Scratchpad,
Reduce, etc.

     We expect to produce, as a consequence of this work,  a
system or systems which are

(a)  explicitly suited for further research  in  mathematics
     and knowledge representation,

(b)  coordinated with pedagogical  and  reference  material,
     and

(c)  engineered to provide clean and  convenient  access  to
     graphics and numeric facilities.


     We are developing further details on project plans, and
will  provide  these  to  interested  parties on request. We
expect that researchers will have  considerable  flexibility
in  establishing priorities within a broad range of research
topics.

Salaries will be commensurate with experience.

We will carry out our research principally at the University
of  California,  Berkeley.  It will involve interaction with
students, faculty, visitors, and short-term  consultants  in
computer  science,  mathematics,  physics, and perhaps other
disciplines.  We will be supporting a number of new and con-
tinuing  graduate  students  and distinguished undergraduate
students in mathematics, programming languages and  systems,
algebraic manipulation systems, algorithms, graphics, numer-
ical analysis, and artificial intelligence.

     If you are considering applying for graduate school  in
computer  science  or  mathematics,  have interests in these
areas, and appropriate credentials to warrant  admission  to
UC  Berkeley,  please  get in touch with us regarding assis-
tantship support.

Some visitors may wish to plan their first visit as soon  as
winter  quarter  (Jan. 1983) at Berkeley, when Prof. Fateman
will be teaching a graduate course on Algebraic Computation.
Spring and Summer quarters should also be considered.

Major funding for this effort is being provided by the  Sys-
tem  Development Foundation, and is expected to continue for
at least five years.  Additional funding is  being  provided
by the U.S. Dept. of Energy.

If you wish to apply for any of the above positions,  please
forward a resume and brief statement of interest to:

Prof. Richard Fateman
Computer Science Division, EECS
573 Evans Hall
University of Calif.
Berkeley, CA 94720.

(arpanet: fateman@berkeley, uucp: ucbvax!fateman, phone (415) 642-1879)
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27-Sep-82 08:00    David Lamb at CMU-10A        Yet more CS dept ratings
Found on SCORE bboard.  Gene Golub is the chairman of the CS department
at Stanford.

- - - - Begin forwarded message - - - -
26-Sep-82 14:41:43-PDT,775;000000000000
Mail-From: CSD.GOLUB created at 26-Sep-82 14:41:10
Date: 26 Sep 1982 1441-PDT
Attention: general bboard
From: Gene Golub <CSD.GOLUB at SU-SCORE>
Subject: Ratings of CS departments
To: faculty at SU-SCORE
cc: su-bboards at SU-SCORE, quate at SU-SCORE, na.pool at SU-SCORE,
    na.austin at SU-SCORE, na.barnes at SU-SCORE, na.cybenko at SU-SCORE

A  national survey of graduate education has just been completed
and here are the ratings of the leading CS departments.
  
STANFORD 	5.0
MIT		4.9
CMU		4.8
BERKELEY	4.5
CORNELL		4.3
UCLA/ILL	3.8
YALE		3.5

No  other mathematical science department received a rating of 5!
I think we should be pleased by this but we should also recognize
that there are weaknesses in the department which we should strive
to correct.
GENE
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27-Sep-82 08:15    John McDermott at CMU-10A    seeking maze generator
I think there's at least one program somewhere in the environment
that generates mazes of different levels of difficulty.  Any
information about the program (like where it is and how to use it)
would be appreciated.

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27-Sep-82 09:08    Cheese Coop at CMU-10A       Kathleen Metz please contact
        the coop. We have a check for $8.00, but can't identify you
        with a cheese ppn and assume you ordered under someone elses
        ppn.

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27-Sep-82 09:12    Cheese Coop at CMU-10A       Kathleen Metz Found!!

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27-Sep-82 11:42    Vijay Saraswat at CMU-10A    *?\& C L A S H &/?*
From: Vijay Saraswat at CMU-10A (C410VS90)
		TO WHOSOEVER IT MAY CONCERN
                ----------------------------
Would you think about rescheduling a talk by Andrew M. Callatay on
'Flow Process Models for Brain Architecture ' to avoid  a *?\& clash &/?*
with an  IC prime-time talk (3.30 p.m. , Tuesday) and many needless
approach-approach conflicts ? Or is this talk strictly for the big boys ?

p.s. : this is no joke ...
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27-Sep-82 12:37    Jeff Shrager at CMU-10A      Enough robot subjects...
I hadn't expected that so few CSD people haven't seen this toy.  I've got
more than enough volunteers for that experiment.  I can still use people
who are HP calculator naive. (I also didn't think so many people were up
at 4am on Monday mornings!)

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27-Sep-82 12:41    Joe Mohan at CMU-10A         Hit&Run and Auto Insurance
My car was hit when parked on the street overnight.  The insurance
company claims that this will be considered a "collission" (needless
to say, I have  "comprehensive" coverage but not  "collission").
If you have any experience in similar situations,  I'd appreciate
some advice on how I should handle this.

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27-Sep-82 12:48    Carl Ebeling at CMU-10A      I need to borrow wattmeter
The kind you can plug an ordinary appliance into. For a couple of days.

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27-Sep-82 12:48    Carl Ebeling at CMU-10A      DoItYourself Teflon coating
Is it possible to buy a Teflon spray that you can apply yourself?
(Presumably with some sort of heat treatment)
 

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27-Sep-82 12:50    Carl Ebeling at CMU-10A      Watt-hour meter needed
I asked for the wrong thing.  Suggestions on how to measure the electical
consumption of an appliance gratefully accepted.

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27-Sep-82 13:19    SRIRAM at CMU-20C            Seminar


Professor Herrera from National University of Mexico will lecture on
"Boundary Methods for Elastic Wave Diffraction" on Wednesday, 29th Sept.
in Wean Hall 6220. This seminar is sponsored by the depatments of
Civil Engineering and Mathematics. The seminar is of interest to
Numerical Analysts. 


Coffee and Donuts will be served following the seminar.

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27-Sep-82 13:53    Barbara Zayas at CMU-750X    Dr. Ernest Kirkwood
Dr. Ernest Kirkwood, Physical Sciences Editor, Cambridge University Press,
will be in Pittsburgh 5/6 October.  If you are interested in meeting with
him, please send mail to me by the end of the week, bjz@cmux. I have more
information on the Press and its publishing in the area of CS, stop by my
office, 4117 Wean.  


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27-Sep-82 15:44    Hiroyuki Nitta at CMU-750R   Perq interface
I'd like to connect a Perq to a camera that has a GPIB output.
Any help / pointer appreciated.
                                 Thank you.
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27-Sep-82 16:08    Richard Goldschmidt          Help with foreign tapes
From: Richard Goldschmidt at CMU-10A
I have two magnetic tapes made at a (ssssss) CDC installation,
and I have been unable to read them with BACKUP.  Is there
anyone who could help me read these tapes here?

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27-Sep-82 16:41    Alex Waibel at CMU-IUS       words for $$$$
I am currently working on prosodic aspects in speech recognition
and consequently seeking a list of words containing mainly prosodic
difficulties. Thus I am offering  ** 10 cents ** for each interesting word
pair you can give me. Here are some examples:
	good-bye   --   good buy
	to	   --   two
	chip	   --   cheap
	sheikh	   --   chic
etc., etc.
Notice, that I am not interested in phonemic difficulties (e.g., bat - cat)
and marginally (since I can obtain a list of those from a dictionary)
in differences in stress pattern (e.g., p'erfect - perf'ect).
The first N (?) word pairs I receive, will get the money.....
alex
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27-Sep-82 16:57    Peter Schwarz at CMU-10A     Help (Still) Wanted
There are still Lieberman Queue points to be earned by a Student
Representative on the Office Assignment Committee.  Come on, out there!
It's really not such a bad job!  Read the description in
Job.Txt[C910Of1c].

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27-Sep-82 17:02    Richard Goldschmidt          Help with foreign tapes
From: Richard Goldschmidt at CMU-10A
I have two magnetic tapes made at a (ssssss) CDC installation,
and I have been unable to read them with BACKUP.  Is there
anyone who could help me read these tapes here?

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27-Sep-82 17:34    Carl Ebeling at CMU-10A      Come and play soccer
There is an active group of soccer players in the department that plays
twice a week (Tuesday and Thursday) on the Cut.  There is a wide range 
of abilities and we encourage anyone who has any interest in soccer to
join in tomorrow.  We will meet at 5:30 on the Cut for a pickup game.

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27-Sep-82 18:11    Lee Brownston at CMU-10A     Road race entry forms
In a previous message, I said I'd keep copies of entry forms for nearby
road races.  A list of the entry forms I have can be found in the file
race.sch[a780lb90] on CMU-10A.  I will keep this list up to date.

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27-Sep-82 18:12    Cheese Coop at CMU-10A       Closing cometh (?) soon......
        so get your order in soon. Order closes 2 PM tomorrow.
        Party Wednesday PM at 7 in the CS lounge and sale (of
        course) Thursday at 9 AM in the CS lounge. Bye........

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27-Sep-82 18:13    Jerry Agin at CMU-10A        evolution replies
...are now on EVOLUT.ION[R110JA60] on the A as well as
/usrr0/agin/temp/evolution on the R.

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27-Sep-82 18:25    Bell/Chicago Guest           A Spanish book search
From: Bell/Chicago Guest at CMU-750Y
I am looking for this Spanish book: "Intermediate Spanish Conversacion
y Repaso" Copeland Kite Sandstedt. If you have, please phone at 4263
(campus) asking for Isabelle.
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27-Sep-82 18:27    Jim Skees at CMU-10A         Appliances Sought
I would like to buy a used refrigerator and gas stove.  Those
who can help me fulfill these needs should call x2607 between
4 p.m. and midnight, Monday-Friday, or send me mail at CMUA.

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27-Sep-82 18:47    Feng-Hsiung Hsu at CMU-10A   GO meeting schedule
Because of my wrong wording, people think the meeting will be on NEXT
Monday. No! It was supposed to be THIS Monday--I posted on Saturday.
Since it is too late to make changes to that post, the meeting this
week will begin 6pm Tuesday, Sept. 28.

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27-Sep-82 19:17    James Driscoll at CMU-10A    IC After Dark
The second metting of ``Pittsburgh After Dark'' will be this Thursday at
10:00 PM in the CS lounge.  We will be going to Heaven to see the band
R.E.M.  The cover is $3:00, proof of age required.  Mail to me if you
need a ride or can drive.

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27-Sep-82 22:38    Pradeep Sindhu at CMU-10A    Cross pencil found
 
If you can describe it, its yours.

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28-Sep-82 09:27    Edith Colmer at CMU-10A      Hoagies
Would anyone like to help a little fella win a 10 speed bike The 
Pitcairn Mohawks football team is sponsoring a hoagie sale, of 
which my grandson aged 10 is a member. The kid that sells the most 
sandwiches wins a ten speed bike. The sandwich is made up of 4 meats,
2 cheese, lettuce tomato on a 12 inch bun. The price is $3.00 pre-
paid, and they will be delivered to you on Oct. 11, just in time for 
lunch. All responses will be greatly appreciated.
        Thanks, Edith Colmer, Main Office    X2612, 2565, 2596

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28-Sep-82 09:43    Marc Donner at CMU-10A       Lost Coffee Cup
I have lost my coffee cup.  If you run across it, please let
me know.  It is white and says "WQED-FM" around the outside.

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28-Sep-82 10:02    Sharon Burks at CMU-10A      Next Distinguished Lecture
The next Distinguished Lecture will take place on Thursday, September 30.  Just
ENGINEERING: THE INTEL EXPERIENCE".  The lecture will be at 4:00 in
WeH 7500; coffee and doughnuts at 3:45 in the CS Lounge.

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28-Sep-82 12:13    Ed Frank at CMU-VLSI         Alumni Show at Forbes Gallery
See the work of eleven distinguished alumni of the CMU College of 
Fine Arts at the Forbes Gallery.
>From September 28 until October 10.
The artists whose work is being exhibited are:

Hugh Kepets,  Lynne Markovsky,  George Morris,  George Nama,  James Nelson, 
Shalom Noiman,  Philip Pearlstein,  Richard Rappaport,  Teresa Rozewski,  
David Shirm,  Andy Warhol,  

The opening is tonight (Tuesday), 7 to 9pm. The Forbes Gallery is
located at the corner of Margaret Morrison and Forbes Ave.
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28-Sep-82 12:33    Sharon Burks at CMU-10A      Next Distinguished Lecture
Don't know what happened to my other message, but here's the information:
 
DISTINGUISHED LECTURE SERIES
Thursday, September 30
4:00 PM
Wean Hall 7500
.
JUSTIN RATTNER, Intel Corporation
.
THE EFFECT OF VLSI ON COMPUTER ENGINEERING:  THE INTEL EXPERIENCE
 
Coffee and doughnuts in the lounge at 3:45

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28-Sep-82 12:33    Sharon Burks at CMU-10A      DLSeries Schedule
A complete (almost) list of the Distinguished Lectures for the year may
be found in DLS.MSS[C910SB40].  A poster is forthcoming.  You will find
a couple of titles missing, but the lecturers are set.

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28-Sep-82 15:30    Cheese Coop at CMU-10A       
        The order is closed for everyone for the month of
        September. Don't forget to come to the cutting party
        tomorrow night at 7 PM in the CS lounge. Sales
        Thursday beginning at 9 AM in the CS lounge.

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28-Sep-82 15:39    Earl Mounts at CMU-10A       CS Rating
The 9/29/82 issue of the Chronicle of Higher Education
has a rating of selected doctoral programs, including
CS.  It is on page 9 and a copy of the CS rating is on
the bb outside the lounge.

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28-Sep-82 16:00    Jill Bidwell at CMU-10A      Personnel Audit Forms
All Robotics people should turn in the forms sent by the
Personnel Office to either me or Jill Ivill (room 8116). If
the information is correct, do not throw the form away. Simply
sign it and turn it in. (This is the form for the University
directory.)
 

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28-Sep-82 16:17    SRIRAM at CMU-20C            Natural Language Processing book for sale

A brand new book on NL processing by Naomi Sager is for
sale at $27.00. The book store price is $37.50. If
you are interested in buying it send mail to SRIRAM@CMUC.
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28-Sep-82 17:26    Michael Mauldin at CMU-780G  AI Triumph of the Year

*** Announcement *** Announcement *** Announcement *** Announcement ***

Happy Hackers, Inc. is pleased to announce that Rog-O-Matic VIII (called the
"AI Triumph of the Year" by Jim Reed) has been admitted to the fighter's 
guild after becomming a total winner on Level 26 of the Dungeons of Doom
with a final score of 14655.

Top Ten Adventurers [780G]:
Rank	Score	Name
1	14655	Rog-O-Matic VIII: A total winner on level 26.
2	10079	Beer Hunter: killed on level 30 by a giant ant.
3	8546	Rog-O-Matic VIII: killed on level 24 by an umber hulk.
4	7543	Raven: quit on level 21.
5	7445	Rog-O-Matic VIII: quit on level 23.
6	7245	Rog-O-Matic VIII: killed on level 21 by an umber hulk.
7	6483	Rog-O-Matic VIII: killed on level 22 by an umber hulk.
8	6088	Rog-O-Matic VIII: killed on level 18 by an umber hulk.
9	6082	Zotz: quit on level 16.
10	5982	Flash Gordon: killed on level 24 by an umber hulk.

*** Announcement *** Announcement *** Announcement *** Announcement ***
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28-Sep-82 18:44    Mike Rychener at CMU-10A     Life, the Universe, & Everyth
Douglas Adams' latest book, allegedly concluding the Hitchhikers's
Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy is in CMU Bookstore. Hardcover, $9.95.

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28-Sep-82 21:26    Feng-Hsiung Hsu at CMU-10A   GO Lessons
Fred Hansen will start the first GO lesson at 7pm Thursday, Sept. 30. The
first lesson will be on Opening--the first phase of the game. It is aimed
for beginners, but it may also be of help to more advanced players. The
meeting place will be CS lounge.

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28-Sep-82 21:32    Gary Feldman at CMU-10A      popcorn
I have deposited half a bag of very old popcorn in the cabinet above the
stove.  It pops just fine, in spite of age.  In addition, there is a small
jar of imitation butter flavored salt.  Someone else will have to supply the
butter (real or imitation).  Enjoy!!
 
PS The hinged plastic platform on top of the popper, labelled "put corn here"
is a simple measuring device.  NEVER fill this section above the level of 
the surrounding rim, ALWAYS empty unpopped corn from the popper when you are
done, NEVER make more than one batch at a time, ALWAYS give the popper a
chance to cool off between batches.  The plastic top is fragile, so please
be careful.  A full measure of popcorn is a lot, so chances are you will only
want to make less than full measures.

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28-Sep-82 22:07    Gary Feldman at CMU-10A      Register to vote
This is the last week to register to vote in Pgh. in the Nov. elections.
Eligibility requirements include US citizenship, being at least 18 years old
as of 2 Nov 82, and being a resident of Allegheny county for at least 30 days
prior to 2 Nov.  Students who aren't sure where "home" is may
register either where they live or where their parents live, as long as they
are not registered in two places at once.
 
Anyone willing to listen is welcome to hear my spiel on the advantages of
voting locally (and one or two disadvantages, maybe).  In addition,
there are strong pratical advantages (independent of ideology) for registering
in one of the major political parties, no matter what your political philosophy
may be.

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29-Sep-82 00:34    Edmund Clarke at CMU-10A     Programming Systems Seminar
The first meeting of the Programming Systems Seminar will be on Monday,
October 4 at 3:30 pm in room 5409.  The speaker will be James Morris of
Xerox PARC. A short abstract of his talk is given below:
 
 
                THE CEDAR PROGRAMMING ENVIRONMENT
        Cedar was developed over the past three years at Xerox PARC.
It is based on the Mesa programming language and provides an integrated
environment not usually found in compiler-based languages. A film will
be shown.
 
 
FUTURE MEETINGS:
 
        Oct 12 (Tuesday, 1:30pm)   R.P. Van de Reit
        Oct 18 (Monday, 3:30pm)    Roy Levin
        Oct 22 (Friday, 2:00pm)    David Gries
 
If you would like to be included on the mailing list for future seminars,
send mail to Ed Clarke@CMU-10A.
 
 
 

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29-Sep-82 00:53    William Birmingham-59        68000 Manual
From: William Birmingham-59 at CMU-EE1
I would like to purchase a 68000 manual- anybody got one to sell?


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29-Sep-82 01:01    Matt Reilly at CMU-780G      ipc performance measures
Can anyone point out a reference (or provide info) concerning relative
speeds of different UNIX ipc (ala R. Rashid) for different message types
and sizes?  Please reply to the GP vax.

Are there any hardcore UNIX IPC users out there?  Help would be appreciated.

					tnx
					matt
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29-Sep-82 01:34    Alex Waibel at CMU-IUS       word pairs for $$ ...
Thanks to all who responded !!!  Having neglected to provide a good
definition of "prosody" and "prosodic difficulties" I have received
quite a variety of interesting responses (to be found in CMUA:
WORDS.TXT[A610AW60] ). From "Suprasegmetals" by I. Lehiste (MIT-Press),
one of the classics in the field, here's one definition:
"In American linguistics the term [prosodic features] is used more or less
synonymously with suprasegmental features. ... are usually listed as the set
of features consisting of pitch, stress [duration, rhythm, loudness, pitch]
and quantity or defined as features whose domain extends over more than
one segment."     In summary,
most of the responses I received include mainly homographs (can-can,rose-rose)
or homonyms (too-two), which can only be disambiguated semantically or
syntactically but not acoustically (neither on the basis of segmental nor
prosodic features). Some word pairs have segmental differences.  I have in fact
a list of all such incidences from an on-line Webster's pocket (20,000 words)
dictionary (there is a remarkable number of them, so one wonders whether there
is anything non-ambiguous in speech). Responses, however, include a number
of pairs that will be good samples for further study. How -at the absence
of syntax or semantics (imagine an isolated word recognition task) -
for instance (iff at all), do we (and how could a machine) disambiguate :
	lightning - lightening
	tailor	  - tail or
	gram      - graham
	line	  - lion
	ice cream - I scream
well, anyway, grab me in my office sometimes, ..." Fort Dallas, scents,
african of pep sea, ore a tree tough Emanem "

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29-Sep-82 04:16                                 
Mail-from: ARPANET site CMU-10A rcvd at 27-Sep-82 2035-PDT
Date: 27 September 1982 2333-EDT (Monday)
Attention: InfoLaw bboard
From: Michael.Shamos at CMU-10A
To: INFO-LAW at USC-ECLB
Subject: Important Software Copyright Case [long message]
Message-Id: <27Sep82 233351 MS20@CMU-10A>
Remailed-date: 27 Sep 1982 2336-PDT
Remailed-from: Jon Solomon <JSol at USC-ECLB>
Remailed-to: INFO-LAW: ;

The following Federal District Court decision should be of interest to
readers of this mailing list.  It is GCA Corp. v. Chance, No. C-82-1063,
(N.D. Cal., July 12, 1982).  Three former employees of GCA left and took
with them the EPRO
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29-Sep-82 11:12    Barbara Zayas at CMU-750X    Pgh Nat. Bank having sale
Pittsburgh National Bank (at least the 5th & Craig Street Branch)  is having
a sale on Safety Deposit Box rentals.  If you are a PNB customer and have
never rented a box before, you get it 1/2 price for the first year.  The
prices vary.
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29-Sep-82 12:12    Earl Mounts at CMU-10A       Sensor review
Five issues of Sensor review are missing from the Library.
If anyone has them, we'd appreciate their return.

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29-Sep-82 12:40    Richard Korf at CMU-10A      Billy Price and the Keystone
Rythm Band will be playing in the Skibo Ballroom this Friday, from 9 PM
to 2 AM. Free admission. Sponsored by Common Grounds (AB Dance).

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29-Sep-82 14:44    Dorothy Josephson at CMU-10A Mailing Lists
Would someone who has had experience in maintaining mailing lists
that generate labels on the computer be kind enough to instruct me
on how to do this?  If you call me on x2619, we can set up a time
for the lesson.  Thanks in advance.

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29-Sep-82 14:54    Nathaniel Borenstein         A New bboard system
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
There is now a bboard system available at CMU which is *better* than the 
TOPS-10 bboard system.  This system is actually a bboard package for UNIX 
Emacs.  It duplicates virtually all of the capabilities of the CMUA bboard 
system, mostly with the same command names, and adds several helpful features.
For example: The "type" command will type files from any Ethernet host, not 
merely from the machine you are on.  The system keeps track of the last notice
you actually looked at on each bboard, rather than the time you last checked
that bboard; thus you can quit halfway through a bboard and later resume
reading it without missing anything.  Also, there is a "post" command that 
allows you to post something without leaving the bboard system.  As maintainer
of the CMUA bboard system, I strongly recommend that everyone who currently
uses that system (and isn't afraid of UNIX Emacs) should switch over to the 
new system at their earliest convenience.

Some instructions for new users of the system can be found in the file 
/usrg0/nsb/maclib/bb.howto on the GP VAX.  The package is now part of the
Emacs library on all of the CMU UNIX systems.  If you have an old copy of
the prototype, please delete it.  I will maintain only the library version.

Bugs, comments, and kudos to nsb@g.
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29-Sep-82 14:59    Nathaniel Borenstein         A new bboard system
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
There is now a bboard system available at CMU which is *better* than the 
TOPS-10 bboard system.  This system is actually a bboard package for UNIX 
Emacs.  It duplicates virtually all of the capabilities of the CMUA bboard 
system, mostly with the same command names, and adds several helpful features.
For example: The "type" command will type files from any Ethernet host, not 
merely from the machine you are on.  The system keeps track of the last notice
you actually looked at on each bboard, rather than the time you last checked
that bboard; thus you can quit halfway through a bboard and later resume
reading it without missing anything.  Also, there is a "post" command that 
allows you to post something without leaving the bboard system.  As maintainer
of the CMUA bboard system, I strongly recommend that everyone who currently
uses that system (and isn't afraid of UNIX Emacs) should switch over to the 
new system at their earliest convenience.

Some instructions for new users of the system can be found in the file 
/usrg0/nsb/maclib/bb.howto on the GP VAX.  The package is now part of the
Emacs library on all of the CMU UNIX systems.  If you have an old copy of
the prototype, please delete it.  I will maintain only the library version.

Bugs, comments, and kudos to nsb@g.
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29-Sep-82 15:58    Nathaniel Borenstein         10bb executable
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
The 10bb program on the VAXes, described in the new bboard system 
documentation, is now executable on the GP and will be executable on
the other machines tomorrow.  Sorry about that.
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29-Sep-82 17:04    Hook at CMU-10A              Ticket to Gang of 4
I have an extra ticket for the Gang of Four concert being held tonight
in the Skibo Ballroom.  It's yours for what it cost me: $8.00.  Call me
at 578-3056 or 362-0296 or send me mail on the A.

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29-Sep-82 18:40    Gary Feldman at CMU-10A      City Income Tax:clarification
First, it is clear that income earned during the summer months is NOT
NECESSARILY taxable.  Plan I jobs are technically an extra three months
of grad school (tuition free), so that income constitutes a continuation of
our stipend, and is not taxed by the city, state, or federal governments.
 
Secondly, the city tax is technically a WAGE tax, not an income tax.  Income
such as interest on bank accounts, which is taxable by the state and federal
governments, is not taxed by the city, and will not necessitate the filing of a
return.

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29-Sep-82 19:57    Ed Frank at CMU-VLSI         income tax: clarification
As I understand it, the PGH tax is an EARNED INCOME tax, not simply
a wage tax. Thus both wages (as noted on your W-2 form) and
other income (consulting, etc., as is sometimes reported on 1099 forms)
are potentially taxable. 
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29-Sep-82 20:39    Hook at CMU-10A              Ticket to Gang of 4
I have an extra ticket for the Gang of Four concert being held tonight
in the Skibo Ballroom.  It's yours for what it cost me: $8.00.  Call me
at 578-3056 or 362-0296 or send me mail on the A.

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29-Sep-82 20:40    Norm Pleszkoch at CMU-10A    A Quick Quiz
   Match the words in column 1 with the appropriate word, phrase or
name from column 2.
   These words were the theme of a crossword puzzle in New York
magazine a few years ago. The puzzle was compiled by either
Steven Sondheim or Richard Maltby.
   See DSKC:QUIZ.ANS[X400NP90] for the answer and a few more
examples of the relationship.
.
.     column 1                        column 2
.  
.  1) wonder                       a) ole
.  2) root                         b) obey
.  3) phallus                      c) underway
.  4) bow                          d) assay
.  5) where                        e) Alice Faye
.  6) low                          f) x-ray
.  7) sass                         g) airway
.  8) wrecks                       h) outre

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29-Sep-82 20:41    Mark Stehlik at CMU-10A      City Income Tax
>From the instructions to the 1981 Pittsburgh City Income Tax:
 
Who must file a tax return:
    Every resident individual receiving taxable income during 1981
 
    Every non-resident (e.g. grad students) individual receiving taxable
    income for 1981 from sources within Pittsburgh.
 
It is clear that money that is earned in Pittsburgh during the summer is
taxable income (since the Fed thinks it is), while it is also clear that
stipends are not taxable income.
 
This is a public service announcement, since the deadline for filing
for 1981 is midnight Thursday.  The reason that the deadline is so late is
due to the fact that this is a new form and procedure for the city and they
wanted to give people the most time possible to file.  Some forms are in the
lounge, more can be obtained from the City-County building downtown.
 
Note that even if tax was withheld, you still must file if you fall under
one of the above categories for 1981.  Be warned, the penalty for not filing
is $500.00 plus interest on the tax owed.  The city claims they will pursue
all who do not file.  They claim that they will find out if you should have
filed by cross-checking with state returns.
 

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29-Sep-82 21:57    Aravinda Sistla at CMU-10A   THESIS TYPING
************THESIS TYPING*********THESIS TYPING************************
        I am looking for somebody to type my thesis on the computer
probably using Scribe. It will be about 200 to 250 pages. It has to be
completed approximately by the end of NOVEMBER. Interested people are
requested to send me a message on CMUA giving their phone number and
other details like how much they charge.

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29-Sep-82 22:39    SRIRAM at CMU-20C            Scribe Bibliography Builder

If you want to build bibliography files on CMUC 
type Run <sriram>sbb
This program was written by a friend of mine (N. Holtz)
and is used extensively on TopsC
For further documentation see <sriram>Sbb.doc
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29-Sep-82 23:59    Daniel Leivant at CMU-10A    Logic of Programs course
A short graduate course on Logics of Programs will start coming
Monday, October 4, and end November 4.  Course number is 15-855,
course credit 5 units.
 
Classes will be held Mondays 1:30 to 2:45 and Thursdays 12 to 1:15.
Both days at 5409.
 
In the first half of the course we will discuss Dynamic Logics
with very high expressive power.  We shall then study Hoare
Logics as a fragment of Dynamic Logics enriched with
additional programming constructs.
 
The course will be formally self contained, and the basic concepts and
results of First Order Logic will be presented.  However, previous
exposure to Logic will be realistically necessary to assimilate all
the material.
 

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30-Sep-82 02:41    Doug Philips at CMU-10A      Pancake Kitchen has new hours
Fellow PK Frequenters,
        Pancake Kitchen has changed its schedule.  It is now open until
9 p.m. Sunday through Thursday, staying open until 3 or 4 a.m. only on
Friday and Saturday.  I don't think the opening time has changed
significantly.
                        -Doug
P.S.  Yes, I found out the hard way.

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30-Sep-82 07:39    Mary Shaw at CMU-10A         One sup pun at I'm
A few years ago, a fairy tale (ferret ale?) called "Ladle Rot Writing
Hut" or something like that was circulating in the department.  If
anyone out there still has a copy, could you send it to Alex Waibel?

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30-Sep-82 10:14    Nathaniel Borenstein         Future UNIX bboard notices
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-10A
Future notices about the new UNIX Emacs bboard system will only appear
on the unix bboard.  If you're interested in the new system, you should
make sure you're reading that bboard, which is only available on the
UNIX systems.
 
Sorry about the duplicate postings yesterday; that was my fault, not
the fault of the new software.

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30-Sep-82 10:25    Nathaniel Borenstein         Element 109 created
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
A group of German scientists have reported the fabrication of the 109th
element.  It hung around for 5 whole milliseconds.  As far as I know, it
doesn't yet have a name.
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30-Sep-82 10:26    Siemens1 at CMU-750X         City Tax
The City does have access to state tax information.
They got my address from them.
Thus, we can expect crosschecking.
	Peter
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30-Sep-82 11:10    Jaime Carbonell at CMU-10A   IC programming contest
This is an indirect announcement. The winners of the IC programming
contest will be announced at this friday's IC-closing TG. The two
64-dollar questions as to who's the most elegant and who's the fastest
will finally be answered.

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30-Sep-82 11:39    Sesh Murthy at CMU-750M      Pittsburgh Tax returns.
For which time period is the filing  deadline expiring today.  Does this
period include 82 summer.  Where  can I get the forms if I have to file
a return.
						Thanks Sesh
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30-Sep-82 13:32    Nathaniel Borenstein         Taxes for non-residents?
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
Does anybody know whether we suburbanites who already pay local taxes
(e.g. to Wilkinsburg) need to register with the Pittsburgh folks at all?
I had assumed that we didn't, but am starting to wonder.
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30-Sep-82 13:48    Nathaniel Borenstein         Taxes for non-residents?
From: Nathaniel Borenstein at CMU-780G
Does anybody know whether we suburbanites who already pay local taxes
(e.g. to Wilkinsburg) need to register with the Pittsburgh folks at all?
I had assumed that we didn't, but am starting to wonder.
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30-Sep-82 14:23    Jerry Agin at CMU-750R       Food raffle
Once again I am able to offer tickets for the "Family Food Basket" raffle.
A ticket entitles you to one chance in a thousand of winning 130 pounds of
meat, 100 pounds of staples, 12 cases of canned goods, and 6 cases of
beer, whiskey, and wine.  The complete list is in RAFFLE.TXT[R110JA60],
/usrr0/agin/temp/raffle.txt, and <Agin>Raffle.Txt.  Tickets are two dollars,
and the proceeds benefit the Junior Tamburitzans of the South Hills.
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30-Sep-82 14:40    Jerry Agin at CMU-750R       Ladle Rat Rotten Hut
... see /usrr0/agin/archive/rotten.hut, ROTTEN.HUT[R110JA60], or
<Agin>Rotten.Hut.
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30-Sep-82 14:42    Daniel Duchamp at CMU-780G   Qual readings
   I am in process of collecting all of the readings for this year's
 qualifiers.  I will assemble them so that Sharon can copy them 
 wholesale and save people the grief of having to run to the library
 to get papers one by one.  I understand that this same trick
 was done last year, and I would appreciate it if someone who has 
 last year's batch would loan me their readings.  I am assuming that
 the readings will not change much from year to year; if I can get a
 copy of last year's material, then this year's students can get their
 qual readings much more quickly.
   Please contact me if you have a set of last year's readings.
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30-Sep-82 16:39    David McCarty at CMU-10A     Logic Lunch
There will be another logic lunch tomorrow, Friday, at 12.45
in the cafeteria of Carnegie Library! If you're into food
poisoning and ultrafilters, stop by.
 

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30-Sep-82 16:39    David McCarty at CMU-10A     Free furniture!
I have a spacious wooden dresser that desperately needs a new
home. The dresser is in fair condition; it has six large
drawers and four small. I would be delighted to give this
sublime example of unremarkable design to anyone willing to
come and get it. If you're interested, send mail.

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30-Sep-82 16:40    Robert Frederking at CMU-10A Further City Tax Info
        I called downtown (donton), and the additional piece of information
I got is that the $500 penalty is for not filing at all, whereas the
interest penalty is for any lateness.  So if you wait until Monday and
they don't catch you first, you won't get the $500 fine.  The other
information was confirmed.

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30-Sep-82 18:38    Michael Browne at CMU-780G   NOMIC
	Has anyone out there ever played NOMIC?  I would like to
hear about anyone's experiences with the game, particularly if the
game was played using a computer to store the rules.  (NOMIC is a
game in which each move is to change a rule, which makes it difficult
to totally computerize.  I forget the inventor's name, but the game
was written up in the June 1982 Scientific American. A copy of the
initial set of rules in press format can also be found in NOMIC.PRE[C410MB90]
on the A or /usrg1/mcb/letters/nomic.press on the GP VAX if anyone
is interested.)
	Any suggestions about how to modify the rules to make computer
play feasible would be appreciated. 
	Please mail to browne@cmua.
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30-Sep-82 19:15    Ivor Durham at CMU-10A       Attention Tylenol Users!
CBS news reports that there is a contaminated batch of Tylenol capsules on the
market.  It is contaminated with cyanide and so far four people have died in
the Chicago area.  The batch number is MC 2880 and refers to 50-count bottles
(I think).  They say that the inside of un-contaminated capsules is dry and
white white power.  The contaminated ones are moist and crystalline inside.
Although drug stores in 30 states have been checking their shelves I don't know
if this area is affected.

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30-Sep-82 19:54    David Lamb at CMU-10A        new program: DRAT
DRAT is a program to maintain listings, intended as a replacement for
the older AT program.  It is available on NEW: on CMUA and CMUC.
Documentation is available on DOC: on CMUA and soon on CMUC.  At the
moment the principal advantages of DRAT over AT are its improved user
interface and its ability to create listings suitable for the Xerox
9700.  Eventually (i.e. when the authors need it for their own
purposes) it will be able to print DoubleSided listings for the 9700
and TwoUp listings for the 9700 and Dover.  To convert old AT LRC
files to new DRAT control files, run the program ATCONV on S200DL10
on CMUA, or on PS:<LAMB.DRAT> on CMUC.
 
Brought to you by David Lamb and Ivor Durham.

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30-Sep-82 20:03    Operator at CMU-10A          Found Keys
A set of keys was found in the terminal room on Thursday.  Iden